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  • Solving the hosting/bandwidth problem.

If hosting and bandwidth costs are soaring why not create a private, members only torrent tracker for downloading Originals? Have the download link be a magnet url. Setup the torrent server to authenticate whether or not folks are authorized to download or not.

Blizzard used to (maybe still does) use bittorrent to have people download World of Warcraft. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/blizzard-acknowledged-bittorrent-branching-gaming-100000278.html
Just gotta through authentication on the torrent server. Set uploading to only SLR's admins. But allow the network to provide the scale.

    Hairsational Something got lost in translation here. Only SLR would upload files to the tracker, so they just wouldn't upload any scenes with alcoholic beverages. I can't tell why you would bring up alcohol.

    This conversation is meant to describe a way to offload bandwidth and hosting costs so they can bring back the SLR Originals "Original" Quality versions. They recently took them away from subscribers. You can find out more about that reduction of services here: https://forum.sexlikereal.com/d/9296-av1-is-now-live-on-sexlikereal/65

        2Jqt8XuAkwr Something got lost in translation here. Only SLR would upload files to the tracker, so they just wouldn't upload any scenes with alcoholic beverages. I can't tell why you would bring up alcohol. I can't tell why you would bring up alcohol.

        SLR has removed videos before, after release, because they discovered alcohol. They also remove videos for other reasons, like if a creator requests for their videos to be removed from the site, or if they want to start charging customers extra.

        As far as I understand (I could be wrong), a private tracker doesn't give them the same level of control over the content.

            Hairsational You can unregister torrents from a tracker, which should functionally work the same as removing the video from their server, since peer exchange and DHT can be disabled from the tracker side by using the private flag on torrents.

              This is a phenomenally bad idea.

              I am just as frustrated as you are about the HBR removal but this is not it.

              If you are using P2P, then as a business you lose pretty much all control over your content forever. This not something you want.

              If you want to remove any content for whatever reason (for eg. Alcohol was one), you can't do that anymore.

              Data is cheap nowadays. I don't think they are facing Hosting/Bandwidth problems, they are likely trying to get more money from Lifetime subs which they sold.

                Tbh I'd rather download from a fast server in my region rather than some guy in Africa seeding on a dial-up connection. I'm sure all the companies that deal with global internet infrastructure would prefer that too.

                petex67 Why do you think they would lose control? As said in my other post, unregistering the torrent from their tracker + using torrents with the private flag would already functionally be the same as removing the file from their servers.

                    phiber functionally is not same as actually removing considering the file might still exist in the network.

                        petex67 If you don't understand the technology maybe leave the details to others? Private trackers remove torrents all the time and when that happens, they can no longer be seeded by peers either. There is a very short window where if you are already connected to a peer that has the file, after the torrent has been de-registered that you can download from that peer only, but that window is very small. No smaller than the time it would take to tell Cloud hosting to take a file offline. It is functionally the same as removing and it no longer exists on the network, only on people's local drives - which is the same as today.

                          Bandwidth and data is cheap these days

                          The way to save money is by hosting their own servers and not by using P2P

                          Besides, with P2P they wouldn't get juicy analytics

                            2Jqt8XuAkwr

                            They said themselves something like less than 10% of users download Original bitrate files, that's not a ton of bandwidth used up

                            They got rid of it to try and convince people to pay for videos that were previously free, AV1 isn't worth paying for by itself so they took away OBR

                                jommy You are just calling SLR a liar. That's not an argument, and even if it was, it's not one you need to have with me - take it up with SLR. I am taking them at face value and providing a technical solution.

                                    2Jqt8XuAkwr I am taking them at face value and providing a technical solution.

                                    I don't think SLR ever said that hosting of 'Original' HBR files was a cost issue that needs solving. And even if they did, we are talking about 600+ scenes and 50 TB which is a tiny percentage of the total amount of data they are hosting and thus certainly not a cost driver.

                                    What creates more costs for sure is providing now AV1 streaming files on top of HEVC for each and every scene. There were like up to 7 different streaming resolutions for HEVC, now it's twice as many for HEVC + AV1. These additive costs for transcoding and hosting cannot be absorbed by putting 1 % of the total data some place else, so the solution to the problem was inventing a new PPV revenue stream.

                                    In my view, there was no real need to introduce AV1 streaming at this point, and it has no benefit as long as HEVC streaming has to be maintained in parallel. So if hosting costs are really an issue, SLR should think about putting AV1 streaming on ice until the last Q2 has been scrapped. Btw, on Steam Q2 still is the dominant device with more users than Q3 and Q3S combined.

                                        phiber In DeoVR, you can choose either AV1 or h.265 on Q3. Q2 does not support AV1, so I guess that the AV1 option will not show on that device. I don't think that there is AV1 for all scenes on SLR already but I understand new scenes come in both formats for a while now and sooner or later the rest of the library will get AV1 as well.

                                          SchnuppiLilac I don't think SLR ever said that hosting of 'Original' HBR files was a cost issue that needs solving. And even if they did,

                                          Why are you here? You add nothing to the conversation by ignoring SLR's statements and making up fantasy worlds where your opinion is the "real reason" SLR did something. Maybe you're right, but you're not arguing with anyone that cares.

                                          How many more people are going to come to this post to debate SLR's stated goals (who isn't even posting in this thread)? If you want to fight SLR on their decision to pull downloads I suggest sticking with their original post here: https://forum.sexlikereal.com/d/9296-av1-is-now-live-on-sexlikereal

                                              2Jqt8XuAkwr Maybe you're right, but you're not arguing with anyone that cares.

                                              Why do you seem to think anybody cares what you think? You have 18 post on here. @SchnuppiLilac is on here all the time and I have never thought he was out of line. Relax