Hi all
I use a Cyclone SA by Vorze, it work with interactives scripts and i would like to know if is it possible to connect with SLR App ?
I have the detail for bluetooth parameters
Many thanks for your answer
Regards
Rends Vorze Cyclone SA
Not yet available in SLR App
We have it on to do list. This week we release Onyx+ support, then Handy.
Before we get into development we have to get the actual device and development documentation. If you could put us in touch with manufacturer that would be greatly appreciated.
Hi
Thanks for your answer, this is a great new !
I had found a documentation for bluetooth protocol
https://stpihkal.docs.buttplug.io/hardware/vorze-sa.html#introduction
Rends is a japonese manufacturer, there web site is https://www.vorze.jp/en/
You can also use this mail : info@vorze.jp
This toy works with csv file incuding 3 values, separated « , », i can send you exemple
Do not hesitate to ask me
Many thanks
Marc
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There’s a lot but I’ll try to keep it brief. I also have a Launch (full sized version) so that’s my main point of reference.
Pros:
Quiet. Motor barely discernible during use.
Heavy:
Major con as well, but the pro side is if you place this onto a tabletop with a rubberized pad or something underneath it, it won’t move. Which is why I actually bought it because I thought it would be nice for some VR use with “fucked on the desktop” or “standing oral” action.
Functions:
The built-in functions are actually fairly realistic. The deep throat feels like a deep throat, with appropriate levels of going deep/shallow, good pattern routines. Same for all Theo their modes. They “feel’ realistic.
Interactivity:
Good luck with that. I have the Bluetooth dongle thing but can’t get it to work at all. I’m assuming this wouldn’t be an issue for you guys.
Cons: Inserts:
These things are junk for texture/feeling. Way, way too soft. And because of how the machine works, the first 2” or so is basically just an open orifice and even for an average-built guy I found myself feeling like I was fucking a woman who had given birth six times. Just not a lot of friction on the head or frenulum, which is the most sensitive for many guys. And cleaning is a fucking chore. These are close ended, like most Japanese toys, so you’ll find it difficult to get all your jizz out of there, and you can’t turn them inside/out due to the rigid ‘rails’ that are attached to these for use with the machine. As a result, even if you CAN get them clean (I suggest using rubbing alcohol), they will take DAYS to air out since there’s no real way to get air through them. Royal fucking PITA. But the real reason these just don’t do the job is the operation of the machine.
Operation:
Here’s the crux of the issue with this device. The motor is quiet, but it’s also not very strong, and the mechanism is designed in such a way that they expect you to keep your rock-hard Johnson perfectly stationary for the duration of use. That’s just not practical. You are going to want to thrust, even if only gently, and that totally fucks with the machine. This issue is compounded by the problem of the opening being 2” or so of just “opening” before you get to the texture, and you’ll find yourself wanting to push in a bit more to get to the good bits of the throat of the sleeve. But once you do, you likely will find the machine stalling out. Even with very super light thrusting with my FINGER, I’d force the machine into “fault” state. That’s likely for two reasons: First, because the motor just isn’t that strong. But second, the sleeve ‘carrier’ is held in place via simple magnets. And since the sleeves are close ended, you’ll be building up some suction if you are even averaged sized, meaning it’s natural for you to create some pull when you try to thrust back even the slightest bit. Doing so dislodges the magnets, which (I think) cuts off the motor as a fault state. Really stupid-assed design. So this negates the entire principle of using it while it sits on its flat side as a “fucking/oral while standing” machine. Just can’t handle any thrusting at all.
The second major issue with the design is that if you use it like the Launch (and like it’s shown in the manual), it’s HEAVY. That can be of benefit if you want to try and drape a blanket over it, or prop it against a pillow between your legs while use (I have done both). But then, see above.....once you put that kind of pressure against the machines motions, you’ll more than likely cause it to error out. CONSTANTLY. So even in this position (lying down) you’ll have to remain VERY still and, at least for me, I had to literally hold it in a “hover mode” just above the root of my unit so it didn’t bind up. Being heavy, this isn’t very comfortable, and if you are wearing VR gear while trying to use the goddamn thing, its awkward as hell and very unsatisfying.
Finally the utter design of this thing is just kind of a massive strike against it. On the Launch, you accomplish the stroking feeling by basically having the machine (manually or programmatically) ‘pump’ up and down your shaft. Due to how Fleshlight inserts work, this more or less allows you enjoy as much of the insert texture as you have length to get to it. Want to enjoy the milder sensations on your head? No worry, just don’t go deep. Want to feel the tighter sensations? Go deeper. So when using the Launch, the shallow/deep strokes can simulate this against the VR movements. It’s a natural fit.
With this beast though, it works by basically stretching the insert up and down your shaft, not by moving the texture up and down the shaft. Imagine grabbing a rubber band and holding it firmly at the halfway point. Now with other hand, pull the rubber band, still holding onto the midpoint firmly. See how the one side fo the rubber band remains totally flaccid/floppy but the other end stretches long? That’s exactly what this thing does. So the sensation on your head (if inserted shallowly) or your shaft (if deeper insertion) is going to be mostly very loose, with the only “stroking” happening on half your penis. Get a bit annoyed with the chick when she just mouths your cock rather than sucking on it? Yeah...me too. Try paying $600 for a toy that annoys you like this BY FUCKING DESIGN.
I could go on and on but ultimately, this thing is crap. Really disappointed with it and feel totally stupid for blowing $700 for the unit and a couple of the more “extreme” inserts to try and make it work. Flashlights by themselves are superior to this rig, and the Launch + VR scripts make it so much more enjoyable despite all the hassles of getting a script, rigging up a second Android/iOS device to control the thing, etc. I’ll do it just because the experience is worth the hassle. But this thing? Interesting tech, shows some promise, but terrible design of the unit itself as well as the inserts = massive fail.
Hope this helps.
Just for clarity, THIS is the Vorze A10 Piston SA device I’m talking about.
There are other Vorze A10 devices and while I don’t have those for comparison, I’d be shocked to learn they are any better than this one.
marcogroov - Good to hear interest on support for the Cyclone SA - Just to be sure, are you referring to the "Vorze A10 Cyclone SA +PLUS"?
https://www.toydemon.com/masturbators/electric-powered/vorze-a10-cyclone-sa-plus
If so, I have the exact same device (my first favorite interactive teledildonic device).
Have you tried the auto conversion on funscripts in Scriptplayer? Its not ideal but its something for now that I think might work:
Hi
i confirm i use the Vorze Cyclone SA plus +, this is the better toy i’ve used, my first toy was Kiiroo Onyx 2 and i have been disappointed by sensation, not powerful enough for an orgasm.
Actually, I use the Vorze Player for sync my Cyclone, it works but i must to click at the same time on my pc mouse and my Oculus Go
if I could connect the Cyclone directly to the headset, it would be amazing !
Best toy out there a shame SLR app refuses to find it
Does that mean you won't be able to connect the Cyclone with SLR app ?
marcogroov Integration is required to make things work. So far the manufacturer didn't provide us SDK required for integration. Feel free to request them directly.
what a pity, there toy is realy cool with vr... I hope they understand what their potential business is and change their minds...you never know
Thanks for your efforts
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marcogroov connect directly to the OGo is not gonna work. The bluetooth and usb ports on it are slave mode only. Meaning, they can't actually send data. (You can Fetch data perfectly fine however, ie for connecting it to PC or mobile phone.) This is why you can't connect a headphone to the OGo bluetooth. Pitty though.
I'm unsure however if the hardware they used is receive only, or if they deliberately locked it through the firmware.
The difference with some toys that seemingly CAN connect to the OGo, use wifi to do so. ie The Handy.
Hi Realcumber
Thanks for your link about ScriptPlayer
I have question about it, do you know if it works directly with csv Vorze files ?
I had build my own converstion’s tool and today, i have many Vorze files ready to use
If you want, i can you send them
Many thanks
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marcogroov https://discuss.eroscripts.com/badges/1/basic?username=realcumber
Brand new scripting site he's helping with.
marcogroov - Yes scriptplayer works directly with csv files in 2 ways (it also can use the buttplug.io protocol)
I would be very interested in the csv conversion tool you were able to create, feel free to be further in touch!
You can message me where Rakly3 linked, or discord message me as well at = Realcumber#3476
In fact it's more of a method than a tool, i'm not a developer, i did as i could
I use the funscript files to retrieve the position’s markers in Excel which I convert to tenths of a second to be compatible with the Vorze
Then I base myself on the differences in values and the type of action (blowjob, vaginal penetration ...) to apply the power
It's a bit complicated to explain in a few lines but I find the result very convincing. I will put my files on eroscripts for you to test them and if it is ok with you I will transfer the full method and the correspondence tables to you
I'll send you a message as soon as it's done
I installed ScriptPlayer and i realized my files do not usable actually in csv format as is. The result is better directly with funscript conversion's but i don't like change of sense on each stroke
For the time being, i use the VorzePlayer (japonese version...), this application are realy not user friendly but i was could test many ways to create scripts for the cyclone SA.
Finaly, i don't use the rotation change to simulate up and down movements, for this, i use speeds variations (ex : movement up = 50 / movement down = 15) without change sense of rotation.
To define the power, I rely on the type of scene (handjob, blowjob..) and the speed of stroke (slow mouvement = slow speed / speed mouvement = fast speed)
It's really much more efficient
On the other hand, i use the sense like this
Sense rotation 1 = handjob, blowjob and vaginal
Sense rotation 0 = anal, strong handjob and sometimes tits fuck
because "sense rotation = 0" simulate narrow penetration,
and I only change the direction if a stroke exceeds 4 tenths of a second, so very rarely
I will ask to ScriptPlayer (Fred Tungsten) how he plans to manage the csv files, I will keep you posted
Regards
marcogroov I dunno what kinda tits you've been fucking mate.