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obilisk2450 Traditional VR viewers prefer the natural handsy and fuck back movements.

No, they dont. I want to handcuff their hands behind their damn back.

takabom Don' want them to use a sofa for seated though. That would only lead to (even more) floating actresses for all of us in chairs. They hardly even do seated

You know bro they hardly ever or never do seated cg rcg while the male is sitting on the bed, I be down for that, I could probably even use on my sofa.

But I say a sofa pt cuz with a sofa she can lay across his lap for spanks and foreplay, I've seen sum seated sofa sex with hack pt and now with ai pt and I'll sit on my sofa 🛋 and looks very realistic.

SMH, man I feel really bad for people who have cams all over there house for security reasons, I couldn't imagine that situation being a vr porn user 😔

When i get alone time, lol im all over the place, bedroom, living room, kitchen, kitchen table, I've used it in the restroom too, seated cg rcg on the toilet, lol that pt something else.

Noway would I want security cameras inside fuck that shit, outside? Sure but inside hell the fuck no.

This going to need a discussion about, there's sum choices that need to be made 🤦‍♂️

OK so here's a AI pt
https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/beam-mia-blow-into-your-bedroom-alpha-edition-42429

And here's same scene but looks like green screen alpha pass through type
https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/beam-mia-blow-into-your-bedroom-alpha-edition-42429

My question is this, the ai pt works really good on solid colored backgrounds, white black green or Grey like alpha, on scenes with to many colors and objects it works harder trying to give alpha type of pass through. My question is

Should they stick to the alpha suit with floating dick out or film with no suit let the male actually fuck with no restraints and use the ai pt to cut out male and background AND still get a the alpha pt?

Keep alpha suit or no more alpha suit and just use ai pt to cut out the male, but we still get classic alpha but with male in and no more floating dick.

I'd film a few with no suit and test it out with ai pt for no body.

Any thoughts?

Oh BTW that scene was done really great, cut out wise, ai pt, camera position, sex action. Great scene 👏

Good example here why camera placement for pass through is important

Your head is literally the camera in pt.
This scene here
https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/lustful-touch-42026

If you sit on a chair in front of your sofa the models don't match up with you environment of sofa but stand up in front of your sofa and squat down to where there feet look like they on the floor and they leant over your couch, it matches up great!

Scenes like this should use a chair, place a person seated in it, sitting relaxed not in perfect posture...relax, and then place the camera where the person on the chair heads at, at his eye level.
From here the person can leave, leave cam in place don't touch it and let the action begin.

I'd leave the person there so the models have a body to sit on, twerk on, touch on. The body can be taking out with ai pt.

It's the same way with standing, the cam goes where eye level is.

This will help better with positioning models in our own environments.

Viewers heads are literally the camera in pt productions.

If you gonna stand a male standing on a bed or his couch and he's getting a bj like that (never seen before) camera literally has to be eye level

I know I know not everyone same height or what if your bed is lower then the bed in the scene, true but as long as the camera eye level with the model it won't be that much of adjustments needed with the image settings, it will just needs minor adjustments 🤏

Eye level the cam in pt 🤷‍♂️👍

Plenty times in the comments of the alpha videos I suggested using alpha blanket on all furniture being used.

Here's a good example
https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/my-mistress-at-work-10786

She literally climbed on my table!

You get a table, throw alpha blanket over it, sit guy in a chair, camera eye level and let the seated foreplay cg rcg bj roll 🎥🎬

The visuals were great in that scene, she be leant on over your table, the "close up" you'd just lean your head in like the a cam and literally it looks like a close up on your table. That shit crazy 😁 made me lol how crazy that shit looks.
In 20 years I wonder how this will operate. SMH

Anyways, alpha blanket all furniture!

I just watched Simsense's latest PT scene on a different site, and let me just say, please never get rid of the male performer's dick on passthrough. They replaced the male actor's penis with a green dildo to chroma key it, and it looks awful. You mostly just see your own hand jerking, and you have to line it up perfectly all the time for it to look realistic

I guess it was just an experimental scene, but it made it clear to me that it's better to have the actor's dick blocking your own hand in PT

I also have a suggestion for lighting. Most bedrooms have warm lights, not cold white lights. I just turn up saturation and decrease brightness on DeoVR so that it looks more immersive, but it could be better to use slightly warmer lights during recording

    I wish deo player had like a slider with echo effect, the more you move the slider the more echo you add to the video.

    Maybe a voice manipulator
    I was playing with the speed of the video I turn it down low to where the model sounded drunk and slurring talking slow during a bj was kinda hot, I thought it be cool to manipulate voice, on capcut you can add effects like low pitch, High pitch, tremble, all kinds, be cool if we could do that on the fly while watching videos with deo vr player. I mentioned this before.

    But yeah, I mean I like to puff on sum thc so effects will enhance that experience.

    Thc and vr is a great combo btw 👍

    Literally I'd add like deep voice effects, lil bit echo, lower the light in my room or add color and lower the brightness to the video to match up and instantly I'm in sum kinda demonic world and sum hottie demon spawn riding me talking dirty sounding drunk slurring and possessed. 😈

    Or filters that show up in pt as AR effects
    I saw this app on meta that does that, immergallery, they were looking at pics with pt on and they had filters on, had like snow falling, had these effects on while watching 180 videos too.

    I don't think I'd want snow maybe during the holidays, watch sum pt have snow falling

    Lol
    My balls ring
    Are you fisting
    Naked with Lily Lane
    Snow is glistening
    A naughty sight
    We're happy tonight
    Fucking hotties in a winter pornderland! ❄️

    Lol
    Anyways, was just sum thoughts I'd throw out there, audio effects and filters in deo vr player, I mentioned this before a while back. 🤷‍♂️

      Our new EU AR/Passthrough production team just had their initial test shoot with Zazie Skymm earlier today, so looking forward to the release and hearing everyone's feedback! 🥳

      A few BTS pics in the meantime 😃





      Thanks for all the continued feedback & input on AR/PT content!

        Ive watched many pt vids, ai and alpha

        From what ive seen the best camera placement for laying flat cg rcg, is back just enough to where you see guys upper shoulders in frame and aim the cam straight not angled up and have it low to the guys face.

        I know the angle up wards is for upclose face to face and kissing so heads won't get cropped out but in pt an angled up cam causes scale issues the further heads get away from the cam,

        The aimed straight approach and low helps parallel male models with the viewer in laying flat cg rcg...and is most realistic looking. You can get by with angles up wards but imo looks kinda off and not realistic. Also depends how low or high the cam is, it needs to be low, if it's to high then it harder to parallel models body to our.
        The height position is important in pt, the cam is basically our eyeballs. I think you can have an angle, cuz in laying flat position im pretty sure we using like a pillow under are heads, so a slight angel wouldn't hurt but the cam needs to be low where our eye balls would be. /👀.

        Ai pt can really show what scale size and camera angles work in vr. 👍

        I firmly believe passthrough AR is the future of VR porn. What I would like to see is SLR really push the envelop on bridging fantasy to reality. With passthrough AR, you could do crazy stuff like have a succubus come through a portal in your room to seduce you and fuck your brains out. This is the type of creative stuff I want to see. Special effects in passthrough AR, making the impossible fantasies reality. I think there is a lot of good input on camera placement and lighting already provided. But I think there is room to innovate and do some crazy post production stuff that would bring the unreal to real.

        For the AI PT: I feel like hiding the whole male, dick included, breaks immersion. Yeah, it looks like she's riding 'your' dick, but if you're beating your meat, using a toy, w/e - it just appears like you're fisting her lol.

        Does anyone else agree? A PT that hides the male body but keeps the dick in place would be more immersive in MY opnion. Also the difference shapes and sizes of male models makes the 'ghost dick' just too variable. The PT vids that use a green suit or dildo with the dick still visible is the preferred method with this logic.

        Never thought I'd write a paragraph about dicks lol.

          Lol imagine if they featured male models names like the hotties and had there profile page with all their scenes they are featured in, their profile picture would be a pic of their dick.

          Select your dick avatar! 😆

          Vrsumo2017 Lol ! I'm curious how many users actually use the ghost dick option. At least when it's visible it blocks the user's hand so you can remain in passthrough and not see yourself jacking off lmao

            notontest blocks the user's hand

            Yeah using full body is great for that, I can imagine torso users use full body pt.

            Any fleshlight/torso users in here have any feedback how that works in pt, full body best or it really don't matter?

            But yeah, on or off, it's good there's options tho 👍

              notontest I disagree. From my personal experience, I can't watch regular VR or alpha PT anymore.

              AI PT has completely changed the game for me. I like to use torso sex dolls (currently using Tantaly's Daisy Pro), and when I line the model's vagina/ass perfectly covering my doll's vagina/ass, it truly feels like I'm banging that porn star. AI PT, when scaled correctly AND male's member is correctly “passed through” (no excessive flickering), is the pinnacle of immersion, IMO.
              I do agree that not all scenes have male actors with members that scale correctly with mine, and that does break immersion for me, but DEOVR's app has plenty of tools that help mitigate this issue. By all means, not all scenes work perfectly, but scenes are starting to become more standardized, and it helps a lot with any possible scaling issues. Sometimes you just gotta take the L and look for another scene that scales better, it is what it is.
              If you have a torso doll, then I highly recommend you try it out with the AI PT feature. It's a game changer.

                milky97 If you have a torso doll, then I highly recommend you try it out with the AI PT feature. It's a game changer.

                Lucky you 😏
                What's the best position with it in pt?
                Must be great to grab sum ass, I bet the Britney doll be great too in sum vr/pt 🥂

                  Vrsumo2017 Oh my god, yes! A torso for sex or use of a fleshlight for foreplay would be great. The green suits they wear is an improvement but I'm still seeing a floating dick. The purpose of PT is to put the girl in my room, but I never invited some other man to come in my room too lol. Floating dicks actually creep me out more than seeing a guy's full body in non-PT. I'd actually be perfectly fine with the girl just acting out the sex motions by herself, but a torso in cg where she's actually getting penetrated works well too. And if it's a green torso where we don't see it but she's still clearly getting penetrated might work even better.

                  Just found a better technique (visual quality and post-production wise) to replace green screen.
                  I feel like this would work wonders for PT and provide high-quality training material for AI PT.

                  The technique allows clothes of any color, has no spill over, and has unparalleled motion blur with no matte lines.
                  It works flawlessly with hair (which is a very common problem with green screen).

                    Vrsumo2017 must be crazy shit. Ultimately we are getting there giving you full control of environment. Or maybe AI stuff

                    fenderwq With regards to the need to match and adjust the color of the passthrough camera feed to match the video after it became too lit 🙂 We will try to add more control directly from the app itself for you to adjust the passthrough camera's saturation, brightness, and contrast in the future update. I think this should give you better control over the end results that you are looking for.
                    This way you can alter both the video quality as well as the camera feed quality to find the best match.

                      notontest A PT that hides the male body but keeps the dick in place would be more immersive in MY opnion.

                      it will be coming like that soon

                      damson Oww really nice thanks, can you add hue to that? That's usually my biggest issue. Like the feed being too yellow, stuff like that.

                      Vrsumo2017 By far Doggy and Missionary. Unfortunately, CG and RCG don't work so well, but I think it's just because of the poor lighting conditions that I have at home. Otherwise, I think it would be just as good.

                      doublevr

                      Level up AI passthrough by making live cams use AI passthough that's a game changer feature no one would be able to touch your tech after you implement that to live cams.

                      a month later

                      Yall gotta see this!

                      https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/stepdaughters-night-time-cream-pie-42333?t=1289

                      It's got moving cam, but take that out and you got great examples how to film alpha production in front of a bed, that standing pronebone at the edge of the bed looked awesome in AI pt. We need more standing pronebone, Everything looks pretty good while you stand in front of your bed.

                      You could easily just do this formula on repeat using a regular bed off the ground in the slr alpha pt production. Standing or sitting camera position, do both. 🤷‍♂️

                      Anyway thought I throw that out there, maybe sum hottie director will see it. 👍🥂

                      Edit
                      the AI worked really well too, so if you just did this with out the alpha room, but make sure the room kinda plain colored in the bg, might work well just doing that.

                      Cuz that AI pt varies from video to video how well it works, so experimenting with room backgrounds on set would help.

                      When the greenscreen vids came out and viewers complained about the greenscreen, I said they really don't need that green screen, just have a plain colored room, like white walls and and no objects in the room bg. the pt options would work well and everyone happy. Lol 😆

                      But I like the alpha productions, so crisp and sharper edges...

                      What's the word on the alpha productions? Is there debating in the industry about keeping the greenrooms or leave that for the cosplay since we have AI pt. Vrbangers Czechvr are producing AR videos, NAvr making cutouts, bet they might wish they had the AI pt tho might not need to do the greenscreen stuff if they had ai pt.

                      Maybe they keep doing greenscreen?

                      Where we going with the pass through stuff? What the industry saying about it bts?

                      BTW vrpornnow does really great pt cutouts, are cutouts still going to be a thing too? I could see other sites doing cut outs too as well.

                      Four forms of AR porn
                      Pt hack options
                      Greenscreen/ I call alpha production
                      Pt Cut outs
                      And AI pt.

                      They all work great for pt.
                      I assume those are the options vr studios have to choose from.

                      Cuz if vrpornnow can make great cutouts, I'd love to see other sites making some kinda AR content of their original vr content.

                      Just sum thoughts about pt.
                      🥂👍

                      Hi @Vrsumo2017

                      IMHO the only passthrough that really works, and has the best quality, is native PT (i.e. alpha e.g. https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/stress-relief-with-venus-vixen-40792 ).

                      To me the hacks, cut outs, and AIs just don't work, and there is too much compromise on the edges and overall calibre.

                      I am super stoked with SLRs plans, bookings, and shoots so far for the new European PT productions ... there are so many big names and absolutely beautiful stars coming up, I just can't wait, its going to be absolutely epic 🥵 .

                      et232man

                        et232man To me the hacks, cut outs, and AIs just don't work, and there is too much compromise on the edges and overall calibre.

                        Oh yeah, they no where near regular slr alpha production, but I will say I've seen quite a few hacked and AI pt that worked pretty good. It varies from video to video.

                        But agreed alpha produced pt way better on the edges.

                        Getting 2 greenscreen production facilities and one live cam PT streaming + control my sex toy 🔥

                        Making a push to perfect native PT production. Hopefully we can get PT edging as well

                        • 4 scenes were shot last month, 3 of which were just finished and uploaded to slr:
                          Charlie Red, Florane Russel and Olivia Sparkle.
                          We tried to bring more edging into them and i think it was quite good.
                        • 2 more scenes were just shot on may 16 and 17 with Alexis Crystal and Katy Rose.
                          Again edging inclination. Scenes are in the post processing stage.
                        • 6 scenes are scheduled in upcoming months with:
                          Nelly Kent, Matty Mila Perez, Isabella de Laa, Fibi Euro, Lia Lin, Stacy Cruz

                          Manny_S

                          Thanks so much for the update!

                          I'm really looking forward to Olivia but Charlie and Florane are going to be incredible too.

                          Alexis and Katy both sound great as well, as is the lineup for the upcoming shoots 🥵 .

                          Going to be interesting to see how the edging focus turns out - hope @RealcumberScripts is well fed and hydrated and ready for some epic script development 😄 .