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Matt12345 But ye lol , you super fans of PT and anti-fans have some very odd ways of viewing things and one another's arguments lol

...yeah, basically this.

This whole forum is like a stuck record the moment PT is mentioned, it just implodes.

PT is just one aspect of VR, it has not replaced VR, it is new. It's just another way to view stuff with a VR headset, it has a niche appeal, just like VR does, and has many limitations at present, just like VR does.

The real issue is the passion that people have for a website that they have sunk money and emotional support into. If they think that thing they love is being threatened in some way, they will react negatively. And a lot of people have sunk a lot of money and passion into SLR. So when they see content being removed, or a particular way of shooting gaining prominence, they react emotionally.

it's not rocket science... it's people science....

What SLR need to do is be more clear in how they are dealing with these issues. To be more understanding about the love people have for the content, and to be more understanding about the way their customers react when it gets rug-pulled from under them. Perhaps calling the entire community 'a bunch of fucking idiots' because a single person questions a decision, is maybe not the best way to resolve a complaint. If you're not being clear about how decisions are made, then expect the customers responses to be volatile and uninformed as a result.

As to the topic at hand, the answer is quite simple, experiment, be more human, write some interesting scripts, get back to your roots! People generally consider the best SLRO material to be from a couple of years ago... just... do it like that again?

The largest elephant in the room, that i wanna touch on briefly, is the fact that VR will never, ever, be the equal of 2D (and vice versa). 2D is the mind's eye, the use of a single plane to create an image, essentially this hasn't changed since we started slapping burnt ochre on cave walls 50k years ago. We had an idea in our head, and this was a way to transmit it to another entity. And it's been that way ever since, the 2D image is the mind's eye, an entirely subjective thing, constantly trying to approximate an objective view. Recent cinema has tried to blend this as much as possible, the found footage genre, the film "Hardcore Henry", but essentially it's still a subjective view cleverly imitating the objective one.

VR is the objective view. It is the slave of the objective view. It is bound irresolutely to it. And it's why it's so god-damn fucking good. It 'cheats' its way past all the conventions of the last 50k years, it inserts your consciousness into that of another, and allows you to experience a visual reality in a very similar manner to the entity experiencing it. Bound as you are to that entity, you still have the ability, within that volume, to choose what you're looking at. And thus it becomes truly objective, no longer are you directed in what you see, perception is no longer curated, you're free to look at whatever you want. That's what makes it REALITY, virtual or not. And that's why interactives work so well in VR, they're another experience to 'fool' the biology into believing the reality. The more immersive the interaction become, the better it becomes.

So, with those limitations, and advantages in mind, make some truly immersive SLRO's, please. Blow my tiny fucking mind with the amazing experiences. Put me into people, and places i've never been. Or put somebody i'd never expected into my bedroom, (why is PT all cute vanilla girls?), gimme MILF, gimme weird, gimme somebody sitting on my cock for 20 mins just talking hypnotically, wtvr, just get outside the box, and keep going...

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    SLR needs:

    (1) An application form for first-time models
    (2) Fewer videos with big tattoo-covered MILFs
    (3) Contributions from established studios, like BackroomCastingCouch, FTVGirls, AMKingdom, and maybe Naked News.

    I'd also recommend:
    (4) Solo-content in passthrough
    (5) Gay / male / lesbian content for women

    doublevr It feels like mainstream content production is saturated. Too many people are shooting very similar scenes and there's very little innovation on production side of things.

    Just a suggestion:

    There's a ton of creators that do POV taboo roleplaying virtual sex with success in 2D land. I've been in contact with some of them on eg. X and OnlyFans and they do express interest in VR but they simply don't have the knowhow to do it.

    What can these people bring to VR? Well they obviously have large fanbases but what's better is they know how to act out a engaging POV roleplay. They are productive. They are creative. They think out of the box. Just try and take a look at Sydney Harwin - she's a creative and productive powerhouse making at times full feature almost 2 hour long mom/son roleplays all on her own. Recently she managed to gather 25 mom/son roleplaying actress from around the globe in one long 4 hours movie and got it all done within 2-3 weeks. That's quite a feat.

    Penny Parker is among these superstars - look at the success of her scenes on your platform. There's clearly a market for it and you could be the provider of it in VR/AR. There's so many names you could look at - Sydney Harwin, Jodi West, Mindy Mink, Bettie Bondage, Xev Bellringer, Sloan Moans, Rhea Sweet, Kelly Payne, Larkin Love and the list goes on and on.

    You have the knowhow these superstars in their field lack. Taboo roleplays are clearly one of the most popular niches in porn. Why not try to establish contact with a couple of them, offer them advice, maybe even a setup and how to film correctly for VR and get them to release exclusively on SLR. It doesn't even have to be 8K.

      InfiniteFun PT is just one aspect of VR, it has not replaced VR, it is new. It's just another way to view stuff with a VR headset, it has a niche appeal, just like VR does, and has many limitations at present, just like VR does.

      Friendly reminder that PT, by definition, is not VR.

        OliverDK You have the knowhow these superstars in their field lack. Taboo roleplays are clearly one of the most popular niches in porn. Why not try to establish contact with a couple of them, offer them advice, maybe even a setup and how to film correctly for VR and get them to release exclusively on SLR. It doesn't even have to be 8K.

        It's a great idea but I doubt it will happen. SLR seems to be known for its robust (or perhaps risk-averse) attitude to compliance, and there's a reason you don't generally see these performers doing proper taboo stuff for major studios, or when you do, it's very watered-down compared to their usual fare. The Alex Nash taboo stuff has been very hit and miss IMHO. Or you have Taboo VR Porn, which never misses an opportunity to drop 'step' into the dialogue every thirty seconds. I'm surprised there isn't a banner constantly scrolling across the top of the screen saying 'THESE CHARACTERS ARE NOT RELATED'.

        Also, you mention Sydney Harwin who is (mostly) a solo performer, at least in the stuff she puts on the tube sites - which IMHO is not great content for VR - as are many other taboo performers nowadays; and personally I could do without Tommy Torso or Derek Dildo in the scene either. Don't get me wrong, I love most of the performers you named there and others, like Brianna Beach or classic-era Rachel Steele (can't say I like the 'new' her very much, TBH) or Janet Mason; sadly many are now retired or inactive (Mandy Flores is missed). But it's not just about the performer in this particular niche, it's about the content, and I don't think SLR or any major site has the desire to push the boundaries beyond what the 'step' studios do already. Compliance is king and it's safer to go with what you know you can get away with, rather than take the risk of being the latest target of MasterCard or Visa's wrath. Smaller sites and individuals selling content on clip sites generally avoid that sort of scrutiny.

        I'll watch what happens with the Originals 'reboot' with interest, but my primary interest here is content aggregation and the provision of scripts, and provided there's content I want to watch with scripts I enjoy, I'll be happy. If studios start to pull their content because they want / need to increase revenue on their own sites, then it's the dismantling of Netflix all over again, and I will not be happy because I have zero interest in juggling several subscriptions to smaller sites every month.

        One of the most valuable resources that SLR has is its casting thread when users regularly bump their most preferred performers. If I were a competitor looking for who to cast next this would be one of the first places I would visit as it is a valuable resource that has been generated by a customer base that I had to pay no money for. SLR should revamp the requesting process so only they have exclusive access to who is being requested by its users.

        It's uncanny how some of the most requested performers, like Violet Myers, Harley Dean, Natasha Nice, Angie Faith, Sophia Leone, Kylie Page etc ended up on other competitor sites when there only exists a few places where this type of information can be requested by an active community.

          theHobbit unfortunately you just proved me you didn't read my posts. I didn't say I was AGAINST PT, I said I was AGAINST Simsense / their PT director. If he was shooting VR scenes, he would be despised like Alex Mack.
          Since you cannot read properly, no point to bother discussing this with you anymore. You are wasting my time.

            vrguy69 Iā€™m not on Reddit so will make my feelings known elsewhere. Thanks for the link.

            alkory I understood the passive aggressive nature of your post perfectly.

            Maybe I will see you sometime saying, "realJamVR used to be great but since they started with the PT the golden era is gone. Hey, don't get me wrong, I love PT but maybe realjamVR should park PT blah blah" - passive aggressive nonsense. Please go look it up if you don't know what this type of behaviour is lol

            Hairsational I mostly stopped replying to him for the same reason

            awwww šŸ˜ƒ

            fenderwq Auto-translated JAV? Any tips how best to do this? Absolutely agree that the intimacy in JAV is incredible as it is, and could only get better when able to understand the dialogue.

              avengerbob It's not plug and play and will require some programming. I've used both Google translate services and the large whisper model of open AI. Had some issues whit the latter but that might not be the case for you. I think google gives the best results at the moment.

              So if you have some programming skills my advice would be to find a good auto transcribe repro and start from there. Personally, I wrote a library management tool that auto transcribes and detects JAV but off course you could also just transcribe everything in a folder or something.

              Hairsational

              ...passthrough itself is a function of a virtual reality headset, and it allows the simulation of actual elements with virtual ones. Passthrough uses cameras to determine what your bedroom looks like, so in essence it is still a 100% virtual image of your bedroom, based on enough real time data to fool the old braincell.

              As such, i would argue passthrough is very much an aspect of VR.

              It's a bastardized, cack-handed way of trying to approximate augmented reality by using an entirely virtual one, but one that plays convincingly to the current technology...

                vrguy69 could be, but they seem to make appearances on other sites. There are lots of popular in demand performers

                InfiniteFun That argument can be made but it's not a convincing one. Whether the photons are coming from an electronic display or from the real objects around you makes no practical difference when the intended effect or goal is the same.

                fenderwq 100% I think you have encapsulated what works so well in JAV on this post. The pacing is absolutely a thing for sure and the sex is definitely much less unnecessarily aggressive and cookie cutter.