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SchnuppiLilac πŸ˜† Nice! Glad to hear that! I have TV's older than 15 years and some electronic devices much older than that and no dead pixels on them, so I'm hoping that as long as nothing is already broken it should stay that way with proper care and some luck lol

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I'm not doing anything special to make it work. I don't even pay for Plex's service. I just opened a DLNA using Plex Media, so that I can access the videos that I have stored in my SSD. I don't have Oculus Link turned ON in case you were wondering, and I don't think you need it. At that point, whatever video I choose to watch while inside the DEOVR app, I just turn on Passthrough. It's like watching any regular streamed video that comes from SexLikeReal, but the only difference, is that I'm watching it from the DLNA.

    From the release notes of the current DeoVR RC: Alpha packing is now available for all DLNA videos.

    Not sure what alpha 'packing' means, but I guess the DLNA issue with alpha PT has been fixed in that release.

      So, after reading this thread, it seems to me that the bottom line is that Quest 3 is overall a better experience compared to Quest 2 but not worth the upgrade if I already own a Pico 4. Or is there some reason why I should get the Quest 3? I'm tempted but afraid of disappointment.
      From various comments I assume that the video performance of Quest 3 isn't any better than Pico 4 (no 12K despite newer chip) and the PT and FOV improvements are minor. On the other hand, Quest 3 has more noticeable screen door effect, which sounds really bad since I find the SDE pretty bad on Pico 4 already.
      I don't care about standalone gaming or the whole ecosystem. If I did, I'd get rid of Pico 4 immediately. The Pico store is just weird. Full of creepy Chinese and Russian videos.

        quest 3 not rly worth right now...

        i see only 2 reason where it would be worth at this moment:

        1. only for some games and apps that dont aviable on pico 4 and other headsets...
        2. the passthrough with depth api and mesh thing..
          which still is not perfect sadly.
          but maybe this thing will get better with updates if there still room to make it better...idk.

        but yes its overall better than old quest 2...

        if you own a pico 4 then its not rly worth an upgrade but only for the 2 reasons above and if you interested in that stuff much.

        the most interested stuff which i noticed on pico 4 and quest 3 is that porn in passthrough looks more detailed...idk how why that is but its much cleaner and better looking than just to watch normal vr porn.

        maybe its some eye placebo because the passthrough cameras itself are not rly nice and that why vr stuff looks in passthrough so much better ?

        but there clearly some quality difference between just vr porn compared to porn in passthrough.

          SchnuppiLilac Ahhh ok, thank you for sharing! Makes perfect sense, at this point the general release might only be a few days away anyways but I will still test this out since it should also support alpha which will be nice on DLNA

          czperv123 I got a pico 4 but I'm still upgrading, in pico 4 my real environment looks a lil bigger then normal, q3 looks accurate, also idk if its my pico 4 but maybe it never got that pass through upgrade cuz it looks grainy, like my white walls look gray and from what I'm seeing q3 pass through looks better then my pico 4.

          Soon as I can I'm upgrading to the q3

          metichemsi SchnuppiLilac better question yet, what the hell is DeoVR RC???

          metichemsi - I always liked to think 'RC' stood for 'Realcumber' πŸ˜›

          Here are my personal opinions on the biggest improvements on quest 3 after some good testing:

          • great FOV (no longer feels 'too small' - feels great and Im coming from Pimax)
          • huge sweet spot (most headsets you need to keep shifting around because it gets blurry quick when you leave the small sweet spot center)
          • easy quick boundary setup anywhere just by looking around your environment (no need to define borders manually any longer)
          • colour passthrough (amazing for immersion and you can leave this headset on while doing almost anything, even reading your phone/cpu at a minimum resolution - could be definitely be higher res, but the real world feel is there)

          FOV is definitely slightly improved with standard Quest 3 face mask which does improve things. But if you remove the black face mask and figure out a way to get it to sit comfortably on your head (I MacGuyver'ed mine with padding from around the house and some velcro) it actually improves the FOV even more which makes an even bigger difference, plus it gets rid of some of the curtain effect. Part of my MacGuyver was to velcro flaps over the sides to block out light, but one cool thing about that from an idea I saw from someone else on Reddit is in color passthrough, removing the flaps and letting the light in on the sides make it almost seem like you're wearing big glasses so you actually see more of your surroundings making it appear a little more realistic. Doesn't seem like there's a lot of aftermarket headstraps for Q3 yet but until then will use the MacGuyver method. I've heard the Bobovr M3 does the same thing with FOV and is a comfortable headstrap but is currently unavailable. If they had designed the way it sets on your head and face differently I think this would have been a lot better received.

          12 days later

          I got mines!

          Guess I'll give my run down.

          The psss through looks grainy like the Pico 4, but it works better in low light and colored light, example
          Im able to have a red light or blue light and mix the image in with the color light using image settings.
          Also if i just have my desktop on with no light, if you turn contrast all the way to the left 0, and turn brightness down the image blends in good like you in the dark having 4am morning sex πŸ‘
          With Pico 4 I couldn't do that cuz in low low light it way freaking grainy and it would have red grain spots.

          Those are big pluses for me with the q3, but the grain man I thought it would look better then the Pico 4, it about the same but with the quest 3 looking threw the pt the actual environment looks normal size, in Pico it looked Lil bigger then life like size

          And this shit does suck at charging while using it, it freaking drains while plugged in and i was watching videos. πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

          Fov is noticeably bigger then q2, bigger then Pico 4? Nah.

          I need the facegaurd out to max cuz up close the frames looks web-ish and it's not a circle. Pulling it out makes it a perfect circle for me. πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

          Picture wise, it looks way better then q2, no lens rings, no blurry Ness due to sweet spot, hardly any glare that I've noticed, in Pico 4 glare was noticeable right off bat.

          Facegaurd feels better then the default q2 facegaurd but after a while I feel scratchyness on my skin from the fabric cuz it got them Lil grooves in it cuz it's mesh fabric, I bought these face cushions on Amazon it came two different fabrics one was mesh and it did the same, it's comfortable but after a while I felt that scratchyness from the fabric, the other face cushion was lycra fabric and it's smooth on the face. Pretty much q3 face foam feels is like Pico 4's. I had to replace that. πŸ™„ but the q3 sits better on the face then Pico 4. Also feels better waring then the q2

          The system runs faster, you can tell

          Upgrade from a q2? Sure
          Upgrade from a Pico 4? If just for the pass threw to work better in dim light And you want the actual size of the real environment looking threw pt? Yeah

          But just for better quality video, its not like a must have right away, you fine with the q2 or Pico 4.

          Also I feel like I can see the edges of the camera looking threw pass through, I gave some details on this in the "your pass through headquarters" discussion.

          But I'll get back to ya in a week or a few. After living with this thang longer then a day. πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈπŸ‘

            Vrsumo2017 And this shit does suck at charging while using it, it freaking drains while plugged in and i was watching videos.

            As long as you use the original power block and a full speed cable it will maintain the battery power. I bought some of the magnetic charging leads from Magnilink to save constantly plugging/unplugging. They’re pretty sweet πŸ‘.

              Sold Pico 4 and got my Quest 3 this week. Will probably send it back to Amazon because one of the controllers is messed up (squeaky and mushy buttons). Honestly, I was just curious about Q3 and I didn't see a reason to hold onto the Pico 4 for much longer, hoping Pico 5 is released next year.

              PQ, SDE, sweet spot, system performance (8K playback, scrubbing speed), FOV ... all this seems about the same.

              Pico 4: much better comfort with the stock accessories and for me also better passthrough (unreadable phone and warping on Q3 PT)

              Quest 3: much better app store - all essential apps and for those who care - much better game selection, including mixed reality. Also wireless PCVR works great even without Virtual Desktop.

                czperv123 for me also better passthrough

                Really?, see I think my pico never got that pass through update cuz mine to grainy especially in the low light. also my real environment looks slightly bigger then normal, in q3 the pt is still grainy but looks better and works way better then the pico 4, it works better in low light, and in low light if turn your contrast down alot and turn the brightness down you can mess with it to match your dim room, also im able to use colored light and match the image to the color. so for me q3 pt is way better. But I still use my pico 4 tho, i love that thang πŸ‘