highkiller I think you should watch what you say here, your remarks are unacceptable, comparing one of the best newcomers to "transvestite looking monster" is not gonna cut it.

I'll let this one slide, but I have a very low tolerance on stuff like this and will have to use my ban hammer

justsomedude101 Hmm, interesting. I suppose it just comes down to individual preferences then, or some combination of preferences + headset variation. With a few exceptions, SLR's scenes look just as accurate with distancing to my eyes as any of the other major studios- Wankz/POVR, CzechVR, etc. And oftentimes more accurate (plenty of Badoink scenes appear too far to my eyes, or the recent giraffe-necking from the "Madi About You" scene at Wankz).

That's not the point. I use the very same headset with the very same settings for every scene from every studio I watch, SLR, POVR/WankzVR, CzechVR, NA VR, BadoinkVR, VR Bangers etc. And while CzechvR, POVR, BadoinkVR etc. pretty much nailed the perfect distance down, SLR (Nash/Redstar) is always too close in both cowgirl and every single close up shot. Please, do a direct comparison with e.g. the Lily/Jessica SLR scene and a recent scene of the other studios, it's glaring. Other positions like missionary are ok (most of the time). Some Nash/Redstar scenes are better than others but it's really an ongoing theme in their productions. Another glaring example is e.g. the threesome with Chloe Temple and Camila Cortez...

Maybe you like the close distance and don't care about not seeing much and severe double vision, that might be your preference. But stating that there was no difference in the distance compared to other studios is just downright false.

    LordCrash Philip's a nice guy, I'd ban both of you. You're only looking at her and other performers to meet YOUR ideals of what they should look like, You take no consideration to think that maybe they weren't "forced" into anything. Maybe, for their own self image, they have had work done to make them happier, to meet the ideal that they are looking for.

    You only consider how her change affects you - that's selfish. You also don't seem to care that sometime performers peruse these boards and would be crushed to read the vile things you and that other guy are spewing - that's cruel. This isn't going to change your minds or make you reflect on your actions, you'll probably write some long diatribe about how you're not alone thinking these thoughts, there are others too - just spewing more garbage.

      LordCrash Please, do a direct comparison with e.g. the Lily/Jessica SLR scene and a recent scene of the other studios, it's glaring.

      LordCrash Maybe you like the close distance and don't care about not seeing much and severe double vision, that might be your preference. But stating that there was no difference in the distance compared to other studios is just downright false.

      That's exactly what I'm saying though: when I compare to other studios, the distances in SLR scenes almost always look virtually identical to other producers. Here's some snapshots of some SLR scenes vs some Wankz ones. Distances literally all look spot-on accurate in my headset when jumping between almost any SLR/Wankz/Czech/whoever scene. There's obviously some exceptions with every studio, and 100% agree the Chloe Temple/Camilia Cortez scene was one that was shot far too close during the laying portion.

      That's why I'm genuinely curious if it has something to do with how the G2 (I think you've said that's what you use before) displays the 200 degree fisheye format. But I digress.

      I for one enjoy the distances used most of the time for the majority of positions segments and feel like they're generally spot-on accurate, so to each their own.

        justsomedude101 That's why I'm genuinely curious if it has something to do with how the G2 (I think you've said that's what you use before) displays the 200 degree fisheye format. But I digress.

        If that's actually the case then fuck that 200° fisheye format... 🖕😠

        Or somebody actually provide me some useful settings for my G2, the scenes are sometimes barely watchable that way... Simply zooming out doesn't work, then everything is distorted.

        justsomedude101
        It's not just the G2. Same thing with my headsets. Crash is right. The problem isn't that SLR's shoots lack outstanding scale and distance, they have that nailed, it's that you can't adjust their 200 degree fishy video's distance in your playback software without things going horribly wrong
        In an Equirectangular (Dome) 180 video, when Skylar Vox invades the goldielocks zone of the camera lens with her massive mommy milkers and I go crosseyed, or the scale is like seeing from Frodo Baggin's point of view, I can push it back a few notches in my player on the fly and it usually tames distance & scale issues. Game on.
        In Fisheye 200, it becomes a funhouse mirror if you try that.

          4c1dr3f13x Hmm, interesting. I don't ever really feel the need to zoom in or out for the most part with SLR's scenes, so not something I've experienced unfortunately (or fortunately I guess...). Imagine it would be frustrating though.

          Sounds like it ultimately come back to the eternal "fisheye/non-fisheye" debate then, but other than that I'm fresh out of ideas.

          SLR Originals just don’t play nicely in any other player but DEO/SLR app. Other players I think you can try to tweak settings, toggle fisheye, etc. but there’s persistent distortion. In the native app the scenes look good to me. There are some exceptions out there. As I recall the ACC/Jamie scene had some problems here and there, but by and large, and especially lately I too have no problems with SLRO scenes.

          Just for the record... the Lily/Jessica scene was not filmed by Nash/Redstar. It was a VRFanservice scene.

          (Not throwing them under the bus at all though, because I actually LOVE that scene. However, as I noted in the video comments: there are issues with the audio. 90% of the scene is in mono. There's no directional audio left/right, which is very noticeable in all the closeups. Can you inquire about requesting a fix? @Philip )

          Regarding the larger topic, yes there are some Nash/Redstar scenes where the camera is placed too close. More notably during the laying down sections, imo. It would benefit if it was taken a few inches back. One example I recall the most vividly was the Savannah Bond BGGG.

          Nash/Redstar do film seated cowgirl very close-up too. More than other studios. But I actually really like it. For seated POV, it feels lined up for me when I'm in seated position. I want them to feel like they are sitting right on top of me pressed up against me. The drawback for some though is penetration is not very visible (which I understand can be an issue).

          One thing I will note though is I'm using a Pimax 8KX. When things are close up I have a high threshold of tolerance because the headset's FOV is so wide and tall. It's a huge plus for porn.

            That should be cute
            https://twitter.com/MissAprilSnow/status/1484415463849267201

            Also Ava is coming
            https://twitter.com/sexlikereal/status/1484465022059360257/photo/1

            Also Kylie Quinn and Honey Hayes are coming together, no photos yet.

            g2kbuffetboy (Not throwing them under the bus at all though, because I actually LOVE that scene. However, as I noted in the video comments: there are issues with the audio. 90% of the scene is in mono. There's no directional audio left/right, which is very noticeable in all the closeups. Can you inquire about requesting a fix? @Philip )

            I asked Evan Redstar to join the forum to address these issues, unfortunately I cannot handle this small editing issues so I'm relying it to Evan now. He's our chief editor in charge.

            4c1dr3f13x
            You should not be adjusting anything, especially zoom, there is only right "distance" from where all the geometry works. We are working on fixing the aspect of VR videos.

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            I want to remind anyone that if you cannot keep your toxic comments about performers out from here I'll be very fast to ban you. You can criticize website, app, our service but you absolutely will not be tolerated calling our performers names, I hope that's clear.
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              g2kbuffetboy Just for the record... the Lily/Jessica scene was not filmed by Nash/Redstar. It was a VRFanservice scene.

              Damn, you're right and I'm wrong. I guess I have to apologize to Nash/Redstar although I agree that a lot of their scenes do have the same issue. Then more than one SLR studio is shooting stuff too closely, damn... 😞

              Completely unrelated to any of the above: did SLR change the way that downloads function? The entire time I've been a member I've been able to easily throttle downloads through Chrome's Developer Tools. But now when I click on the download button, it temporarily opens up an additional new tab, which means that I can't throttle the download since it downloads from that new temporary tab.

              CzechVR does this same thing, but at least with theirs I can manually copy the web address from the download button and paste it to a new tab to throttle it that way. Here that's not even an option, no web address linked to even copy.

              What I'm saying is: am I seriously going to have to search around and find some 3rd party web downloader just to be able to throttle my downloads...?

              Philip Kylie Quinn and Honey Hayes

              More Honey Hayes can only be a good thing. I didn't really like her last scene all that much, can't actually remember why. Might have been lack of close-ups/eye contact.

              Philip You can criticize website, app, our service but you absolutely will not be tolerated calling our performers names, I hope that's clear.

              Also great news imo. How hard is it to have an opinion without being a dick about it?

              Docotto Ok, I'll admit that the phrase that I used to describe her new looks was out of line and uncalled for. I even thought for a second that I went too far before hitting send and for that I would like to sincerely appologise.
              But it is hard for me to believe that she made all of those decisions on her own when to this day a lot of studios require their models to do breast implants or if they don't push it contractually they strongly insist on it.
              I can imagine that she decided to do the permanent eyebrows on her own because its very popular lately (i don't like this look and I have been selfish with my opinion in this regard).
              Also please don't tell me that studio and director has no say about the models makeup before the shoot because that's just silly.

              It just pains me deeply that a lot of young beautiful girls are pushed to those (IMO) bad decisions (in many cases by the studios (and to stop some incoming comments I want to underline that I am not saying SLR is working like that because they are clearly not) )

              Once again. For everyone involved. I am sorry for the cruel words that I used in my previous post.

                highkiller I agree with your opinion that her new look is a big downgrade but this part of your post is almost completely nonsense:

                highkiller But it is hard for me to believe that she made all of those decisions on her own when to this day a lot of studios require their models to do breast implants or if they don't push it contractually they strongly insist on it.
                I can imagine that she decided to do the permanent eyebrows on her own because its very popular lately (i don't like this look and I have been selfish with my opinion in this regard).
                Also please don't tell me that studio and director has no say about the models makeup before the shoot because that's just silly.

                It just pains me deeply that a lot of young beautiful girls are pushed to those (IMO) bad decisions (in many cases by the studios (and to stop some incoming comments I want to underline that I am not saying SLR is working like that because they are clearly not) )

                Studios don't force or coerce girls into getting implants, tattoos, injections, or anything else of that nature. They are decisions made entirely by the girls themselves. What you need to realize is that all of these porn girls practically live on social/media platforms like Twitter, Instagram and OnlyFans, where they are constantly comparing themselves to other girls. They are heavily influenced by what they see other girls doing, comments made by fans, and so on. Many of them eventually feel a pressure to look a certain way and develop mental health conditions like body dysmorphia disorder where they genuinely believe that they have body flaws that need to be improved and that leads them to attempt to upgrade their body.

                Another contributing factor is that many of these girls are young and naive and/or not very intelligent to begin with, and as a consequence they just generally don't make good decisions.

                blaze466 I don't want to have a debate because that's not what this thread is about but a couple of quick points:

                • April Olsen is not a vet. She's relatively new to the world of professional porn.
                • A degree is not a good measuring stick for intelligence. An undergraduate degree is little more than a piece of paper you get for memorizing some things from a textbox and some lectures. The threshold for passing is set low enough that anyone who isn't completely hopeless can pass.

                blaze466 Many girls have fake tits. My wife has them. Many girls I know have them. Many girls you don't realize have them because you've never seen their tits before.

                That's a very selective perspective. In my inner and outer vicinity nobody (yes, nobody) has fake tits. In my family nobody has fake tits. None of my friends or aquaintances has fake tits. In my company, nobody has fake tits. In my university courses back then nobody had fake tits. And the list goes on and on...

                It might be a common thing in the place you live and the environment you live. But it's definitely not the norm or even a common thing everywhere. That's why people proably react very differently to the topic. For some people it seems to be just "normal" and culturally accepted. For different people in different cultures it's rather not, it's probably the very rare exception and not part of a widely accepted ideal of beauty.

                [deleted] Do you actually read what other people write and do you even try to understand their posts? Picking out single words without any context only to be able to point with the finger at sb is pretty pointless and not constructive in any way. So please stop addressing me until you actually want to talk about it in a civilzed manner...

                And by the way, it's perfectly ok for me if somebody thinks that my haircut was ugly. That's a perfectly normal opinion to have since no haircut pleases everybody. And yes, it's my choice indeed to get myself any haircut that I want. Nobody here questioned that a single bit. But every choice has consequences and in a free world with free speech people are free to have their own opinion on other people's choices. So people are free to evaluate my haircut. I indeed don't expect strangers to tell me how they think about it (I guess they wouldn't care anyway) but it wouldn't be a big deal. And if - by any chance - I dedided to put photographs with said haircut on the internet asking people to pay money for it I would indeed expect(!) that not everybody likes it. That's just part of the deal and there's absolutely nothing about it. If I wouldn't want other people to talk about my haircut I simply wouldn't put photographs of it on the internet and ask for money for people to see said haircut in even more detail. This whole discussion is so ridiculous imho but ok, I guess some people have to get upset about stuff just for the sake of it...