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doublevr
How many of your users are using a Q2 though? Over 50%? Passthrough scenes suck for now. Maybe go in on them when your users actually have headsets that will make them watchable. The two headsets you mentioned aren't even available for sale.

    LordCrash I'm looking forward to some of the upcoming European scenes at least, especially Kaira Kampen (She's gorgeous) which I think is coming Friday plus Jia Lissa has 2 scenes.. I'm hoping these are really good and continue after so still plenty to look forward to! Don't give up hope just yet...

      I'm not opposed to SLR doing AR scenes and expanding their business model b/c well it is a business after all; however, echoing what others are saying, Q3 isn't even out yet and it will take even a bit longer to overtake Q2 as the primary VR/AR headset so it can feel like jumping the gun a little bit. Just my opinion.

      you guys can't remove all the likes for PT videos and those are only growing.

      it's also true that all the videos soon will have PT option with the help of AI. curious how will it affect native PT production 🤔

      With quest 3 coming out pt is going to be a big deal. Many people really enjoy it

        LordCrash I don't WANT to watch AR porn. I don't want to see my apartment in VR porn.

        you could argue though that SEX LIKE REAL is having sex in your own apartment just saying.

          doublevr Respectfully, Who's to say that the likes are driven by PT vs. just users liking the actress or something? Is there some other kind of metric/comparison you could provide? Lily lou for instance: I'd wager the success of her scene is b/c she's in it. I'd love to see how a VR scene fares in comparsion.

              I "Liked" the Kelsey Kane PT just because i want her to be cast again in a non PT video because she's gorgeous. The actual PT scene was just really weird and boring to me, unfortunately. I even made an effort to try to use the PT feature and line the action up, but it just didn't work.

              Also i think new performers should be cast with a more experienced girl for their first scene to help them with the dirty talk so they aren't so nervous.

                vrguy69

                I personally am still not a fan of PT porn (I personally want to be immersed in a fantasy, not my mancave). Indeed, there is no comparison when one claims X scene has Y likes ( HughMungus literally just proved my point). The likes can be coming from multiple other factors: performer, theme, quality.... Best is to sidebyside compare with a VR scene. As somebody has suggested it would be good if all the PT scenes go to a separate SLRO "studio", or have a PT toggle like for JAV (that would not clog up my SLRO feed with PT scenes)

                I am still just about fine with the current rate of PT (6 out of the last 20 scenes), but if this goes up (to like half of the released scenes) then I may have to consider my sub unfortunately. After Modern Relationship, there weren't many scenes that excited me this year, so sadly I watch less and less SLRO scenes upon release (or I go back to old masterpieces)

                That said there FINALLY is a raw taboo scene coming out with Penny Barber, so there's something to look forward to!

                    doublevr you guys can't remove all the likes for PT videos and those are only growing.

                    Would be interesting to see the PT watchtime vs non-PT watchtime. I feel like PT would not be anywhere near as popular as the likes suggest given how bad Quest 2 PT is, how few people own a headset with good PT, and the current unpolished PT experience from the production and app side of things.

                    it's also true that all the videos soon will have PT option with the help of AI. curious how will it affect native PT production 🤔

                    I hope SLR can get to a point where all PT scenes can be VR-first and filmed with a normal background but allow PT users to view them in PT mode. It really sucks having so many scenes with good models that are not enjoyable solely due to that fact that they are PT.

                        doublevr I have a Quest Pro. I bought it at launch because I wanted to see color passthrough. A $1500 investment, because I was interested in passthrough. I still thinkpassthrpough is awful.

                        It isn't bad because it is in black and white, it is bad because it is shot poorly (lots of unnecessary angle changes, for example) and IT IS NOT VR. VR is appealing because it is immersive. Putting a hard to line up model in my environment is not immersive- at all. If anything it is utterly distracting because you can't ever get it to line up properly, and the zooming/scaling/warping is just more apparent when only the model is being scaled and warped while the room remains the same.

                        I agree that should be a seperate subscription, not 1/4 of the one we all signed up for.

                        I wish you would stop telling us that we will like what you want us to like, and listen to what we are telling you.

                            doublevr Thanks for responding. I think the CGI backgrounds mitigate some of the problems, for sure. They still have a bit of an "unreal" feel in a medium when we should be striving for "real" or as close to it as possible. I do appreciate the attempt to compromise, and it does at least give us access to passthrough stuff that is unwatchable without it. This seems to be the only iteration of this solution, however. If it was more widely available, it might mute some criticism.

                              LordCrash I guess we can leave things at this point without further going into fighting 👌

                                Hi @doublevr ,

                                I fully get why SLR is going for PT. Eventually all headsets will have incredible surrounding view, Apple will likely break barriers with this soon. You are essentially creating a market/building a library for something that is soon to explode.

                                I like this, its business savvy. However what concerns me is what @TakingFredoFishing points out. The angles changing, and the models not lining up properly makes it not work even with future PT capabilities

                                So, on one hand current users with Q2 (like me) cannot enjoy these videos.
                                On the other hand users with Quest Pro (or better future headsets) cannot enjoy them either.

                                If going 100% for PT with future in mind:
                                -bodysuit is necessary
                                -angles need to be alligned properly
                                -angles cannot be changed back and forth, only once per scene, I'd go in order sitting > laying > standing