the javvr let me feel l am in there the Western vr make feel l am watching a movie, why not place the camera like them but to create the slr-javoriginals?
why western studio cannot place the camera like Japanese
Lenovo - I think a big reason is that penetration/genitalia is not the main focus in JAV (since its pixelated anyways). This almost gives the directors no choice but to really focus on intimacy and immersive camera angles instead much more and so naturally that creates many more moments of the feeling of presence of being in the scene with the actress
RealcumberScripts yeah, I can imagine that that might be the reason why. Still, wouldn't you agree that there is no real reason why it couldn't (or should not) be reproduced in western porn? Personally, I think a great deal can be learned from jav in that regard.
Also, I don't think it's only camera placement but where they position the girls and especially what the girls do and how they act.
Just look at how jav does a harem scene. How all the girls work together and are still close to the camera, how they maintain a sense of intimacy, etc. All that while still having your pixalated junk in full focus lol.
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Most of us thought SLR Jav originals would give us exactly what this thread is asking for, but for some backwards reason SLR decided to give us wesrern style vanilla shot porn with western mainstream stars, but pixaleted, like seriously why would a company take the 3 worst parts of western and Jav, and smoosh them together.
When they could have gone the complete opposite direction with Jav Style Shooting and camera work, and ideally Jav stars shooting outside of Japan like we were expecting and had been asking for we will never know.
RealcumberScripts It's said that Alex Nash scenes are like Japanese style ,is that true ?l watched some sivr scenes,all the positions are perfect and relisitic. If they are high-resolution and uncensored, l won't choose Western vr .
Btw when will Japanese upgrade their cameras? 4kUhd is their limit...
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RealcumberScripts Once again, you've described the difference between Virtual Reality and 3D porn. 3D porn is not "sex like real", virtual reality is.
I think western producers think that all western consumers are sweaty Harley dudes who want nothing but penetration, choking, jackhammer fucking and armpits. It's a shame they give in to the lowbrow so goddamn often. You could do SLR more highbrow and immersive, and people would pay double the price. Instead, it's 3D Walmart porn with no identity of its own - just trying to beat others at what they are already doing.
Will65 So true. The first western company to figure this out is going to take over VR in the West. I think @alexnash is really the only one that hears what we are saying and is trying to get there. If he figures it all out then he can buy SLR because of all the money he will make.
JamzVR Most of us thought SLR Jav originals would give us exactly what this thread is asking for, but for some backwards reason SLR decided to give us wesrern style vanilla shot porn with western mainstream stars, but pixaleted, like seriously why would a company take the 3 worst parts of western and Jav, and smoosh them together.
I thought this too, but instead they went with the lets try to take over the Japanese market. Nothing but thinking about making more money.
The truth is they would make more money if they learned from them instead of trying to beat them with western girls.
Reading this is a bit ironic because early on JAV VR was getting lots of flack for its angles, but now it seems like things have really improved (or user tastes have changed).
fenderwq RealcumberScripts yeah, I can imagine that that might be the reason why. Still, wouldn't you agree that there is no real reason why it couldn't (or should not) be reproduced in western porn? Personally, I think a great deal can be learned from jav in that regard.
Also, I don't think it's only camera placement but where they position the girls and especially what the girls do and how they act.
Just look at how jav does a harem scene. How all the girls work together and are still close to the camera, how they maintain a sense of intimacy, etc. All that while still having your pixalated junk in full focus lol.
Yes for sure - agreed there is much to still learn from jav scenes and no real reason why jav style directing cant be more replicated or influenced into slr/western vr shooting
Lenovo RealcumberScripts It's said that Alex Nash scenes are like Japanese style ,is that true ?l watched some sivr scenes,all the positions are perfect and relisitic. If they are high-resolution and uncensored, l won't choose Western vr .
Yes, they are very close and very intimately shot - definitely check them out and encourage Alex Nash to shoot more JAV style if you like
Will65 RealcumberScripts Once again, you've described the difference between Virtual Reality and 3D porn. 3D porn is not "sex like real", virtual reality is.
I think western producers think that all western consumers are sweaty Harley dudes who want nothing but penetration, choking, jackhammer fucking and armpits. It's a shame they give in to the lowbrow so goddamn often. You could do SLR more highbrow and immersive, and people would pay double the price. Instead, it's 3D Walmart porn with no identity of its own - just trying to beat others at what they are already doing.
Yes, I think theres still an older/prevalent mindset thats seemingly difficult to change when trying to shoot 2d style scenes in VR. Most western porn does not focus on slowed down intimacy and girlfriend experience style interaction and scenarios and instead seem to focus moreso on titillating fast paced acts of penetration
Although that can be great for 2d viewing, it doesnt take advantage of the amazing feeling of presence and immersion you can achieve with the VR medium and that sense of presence is what makes VR porn so unique and worth paying for and coming back more for
It would be great if you guys can keep leaving comments on the scenes on what the directors did right and what they can improve on and hopefully we can get to that ideal style of scene you guys want to keep seeing more of
RealcumberScripts knows what he is talking about.
Perfectly said.
JAV producers use another camera system. They using headset as a playback,It's give them total immersive control.
rerun119 We don't need AlexNashVR, we need RealCumberVR! Ever think of branching out into directing/producing, @RealcumberScripts ?
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RealcumberScripts Most western porn does not focus on slowed down intimacy and girlfriend experience style interaction and scenarios and instead seem to focus moreso on titillating fast paced acts of penetration
I think the problem is the wetsern mindset in general - users and directors seem more focused on dominance and action and less focused on intimacy and interaction. The general theme seems to be "I want to imagine myself totally banging this slut" which doesn't work well for VR since it is more stunt-cock centric, instead of "I'm going to lay back and enjoy this girl pleasuring me" which works a lot better in VR for generating the presence and immersion needed to jump the perceptual boundary and feel "in" the scene.
All the folks who express that they want to feel like they are DOING the action are usually going to come up short. You can get immersion from being somewhat still (as with a sync'd stroker and a script) and feeling like something is being done TO you. Unless you have your fleshlight mounted to the wall and stand up and thrust into it during standing cowgirl, your actions and movement are never going to match the 3D representation being fed to your eyes - thus, your experience will be incomplete and out of sync. Positions where the action is model controlled and sync'd with a stroker to emulate what is going on in the scene - that's VR in the truest perceptual sense since the audio, visual, and tactile sensation (at least on your penis) are in sync with each other and trick the brain into the perceptual leap.
All you're missing is taste and smell 
Evan_Redstar So why don't western studios do this too if you know that "It gives them total immersive control"?
Will65 rerun119 We don't need AlexNashVR, we need RealCumberVR! Ever think of branching out into directing/producing, @RealcumberScripts ?
Dont tempt me further lol - I've teased the idea previously, maybe in the future one day - I am a VR superfan and admire a ton of JAV, so who knows one day, but Im sure its more difficult to do that it looks
We have more than capable directors who only keep getting better thanks to your guys feedback!