Hi guys,

Although this particular topic was inspired by @alexnash’s latest scene; “Nash Magazine”. This isn’t specific to him only. I’ve seen other producers do the same thing. I was curious to hear not only Alex’s thoughts. But the other producers and viewers as well.

I am talking specifically about tilting the camera down slightly during the intro of a scene where the male performer is standing. Where the intro goes directly into a standing BJ. There’s usually a few schools of thought on this matter.

The first being tilt the camera down slightly and go directly into the BJ without a cut and repositioning of the camera. The second scenario is having the camera level with the horizon during the intro. Then cutting, tilting the camera down, and then filming the BJ segment.

There’s no right or wrong answer necessarily. There are pro and cons to each approach. In this particular scene, Alex chose to tilt the camera down and shoot one continuous shot. The issue with this approach is the physical tilting down of the camera actually lowers the lenses closer to the floor. Giving the viewer the impression of being shorter than when the camera is level with the horizon.

Melody is (according to her bio) 5’3”. She was wearing 3 inch heels. So she was approximately 5’6” in the scene. Yet when she came in close to talk to you and later give you kisses, she had to hunch down to get eye to eye with you as the viewer. Which would put the viewer’s height in the 5’4”-5’5” range. This is a little shorter than the average male’s height (which is 5’9” according to google) And if you’re over 6’0”, the height difference is even more noticeable.

If the actress stays relatively far from the camera, it isn’t that noticeable. But if the actress gets close to the camera, the viewer height really becomes apparent. So why not just cut, reposition, continue?

Well, there is something organic and natural about going from one position to another without cuts. Those in between moments can be really hot. A girl slowly dropping to her knees. Looking into your eyes. Telling you she wants to suck your dick. Things that can get lost when you make a cut. Unfortunately, in VR, cuts are inevitable and necessary.

So my question is which approach is better? Personally, I lean towards level camera during the intro, cut, tilt down, continue. I suppose a third option could be tilt the camera down. But actually raise the height of the camera module higher than normal to compensate. That way the actress doesn’t need to crouch down.

Anyways, I am curious to hear Alex and the other producers thoughts. As well as what other viewers think.

    I was afraid, that you are reffering to horizontal and vertical filming.

    Some of the issues you’re talking about may have something to do with the male talent being a very short guy. Alex Nash likes to use John Strong who is not a tall guy at all so a girl in heels will probably will be taller than him.

    Not sure what you mean though about the camera tilting down when it goes into the blowjob. I’ve never noticed as I just tilt it manually myself as soon as the girl starts dropping to her knees.

      petermc Some of the issues you’re talking about may have something to do with the male talent being a very short guy. Alex Nash likes to use John Strong who is not a tall guy at all so a girl in heels will probably will be taller than him.

      How tall is John?

      petermc Not sure what you mean though about the camera tilting down when it goes into the blowjob. I’ve never noticed as I just tilt it manually myself as soon as the girl starts dropping to her knees.

      If you stand up and look straight ahead, can you see you penis? Same is true for a VR camera. It’s necessary to tilt the camera down slightly so the dude’s dick is in the frame. Even with the 200 degree FOV of VR lenses.

      My question to you guys is;

      When there’s a scene that starts out with you standing, and the actress in front of you. Which leads into her giving you a BJ. Should the camera be tilted down from the outset of the scene. With no cuts, leading directly into the BJ? Or, should the camera be pointed straight ahead for the intro. And then stop filming, tilt the camera down, then continue with the BJ?

            AlterEgo

            Thanks!

            Hmm. That would make him around 5’6”.

            With the camera tilted down, would make the viewer’s height approximately 5’4”. Which is right inline with what we’re seeing in the scene.

            John’s height aside, the question still stands.

              For me the camera shouldn’t move, it should be looking straight ahead, you should have to look down to see the girl on her knees (or use the tilt function) as you would in real life.

                petermc

                It’s cool dude. Judging by the lack of replies to this thread, I guess I’m not explaining myself very well. Either that, or no one gives a S$%T about this! 😂

                I appreciate you taking the time to reply though. 👍

                    bacula8630 It’s cool dude. Judging by the lack of replies to this thread, I guess I’m not explaining myself very well. Either that, or no one gives a S$%T about this! 😂

                    I imagine you may very well get some eventual responses, but it's been a busy week (as always) with productions.

                      Just give priority to the subject. Standing and talking - faces / body. Standing / seated BJ - faces and dick. Never have faces on the edge of frame, and if cock is in play, don't have that on the edge either. Standing BJ tends to be shit anyway but if you're going to do it, I'd suggest a cut to frame the action correctly. Just never put cock or face on the edge of the frame, and never ever ever crop either one, even a little.

                      That's good point. Anything on the edge is distorted. I use tilt option anyway to make action in the center, as I watch VR porn laying in the bed, so it would be hard and unhealthy for neck to actually tilt the head.

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                      bacula8630 I am talking specifically about tilting the camera down slightly during the intro of a scene where the male performer is standing. Where the intro goes directly into a standing BJ. There’s usually a few schools of thought on this matter.

                      I believe this suggestion may not be ideal because in POV positions, it is more realistic for the bottom of the field of view (FOV) to be limited by the male's nipples or positioned a few centimeters above them, which is more realistic based on real-life POV. If the camera is tilted further downward, we might end up seeing the neck, which can be quite inconvenient.

                      I've noticed this guy 'ZenId' on the site constantly spamming about the camera tilt and comparing it to other studios (he's more concerned about the cowgirl specifically). However, they're incomparable since SLR uses 200° FOV fisheye lenses, whereas other studios typically use 180 FOV Rectilinear lenses.