Here you go https://deovr.com/blog/57-the-10k-rig-project

The idea was nice, but we opted-out from it as I was not happy with the demo (waiting to get it published soon). The footage was too dark, no great improvements on scale and stereo, bulky camera, long way ahead to make it into production unity.

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Our prime focus is getting the scale and stereo effect right at 6K/8K.

    doublevr Seems like a cool project! Too bad it didn't work out as expected.

    at 6K/8K

    6K would be quite disappointing for a future rig imo (even if the scale and stereo effect are perfect). But I'm petty sure that's not what you aim for anyways.

    Curious to see what you guys come up with! Any timeline on the "Chinese version" btw?

      too bad the chinese discontinued the EVO. seems like the camera is still being used on shoots...it was a great entry point and CAM girls were at the point of getting it...then they quit making it

      have great test footage of a few using it....think it's a great viable entry camera for the business...at least to get started and get a proof of business going on the VR front for these girls.

      so when working with the chinese...tell em to get a replacement for that camera going asap

      doublevr
      You 6k footage looks really lacking these days, sorry for being honest here. You have such good casting but technically, pretty much all 6k scenes of the last couple months are technically troubled. And it's not 100% only the camera, it's also the lighting and everything else in the productioin. The picture quality could be so much better with tech that is already available today and so could be the final quality of your scenes.

      Do you ever ask yourself how POVR/WVR is able to produce a much better picture with their 7k setup months ago? Compared with pretty much all recent POVR/WVR scenes the 6k SLR scenes look like shit. Period.

      It's no magic, just solid engineering and good knowledge of video hardware and software.

      That your announced 10k cam is now trashed is a huge setback again. That means that we'll have to watch scenes shot with that outdated 6k cam for months to come. HUGE BUMMER.

          @doublevr
          Get that 8k canon back ASAP if you're not able to give us anything better in the upcoming weeks and months. Personally, I don't give a fuck about the scale but the video quality in these 8k scenes was so much better than in your 6k stuff...

          doublevr Despite what most think about your current K2 Pro scenes and sentiment of outdates 6k resolutions, having previously owned a K2 pro and now owning the canon system, I have continued to be impressed with the quality you guys still get out of the K2 pro. It's still a great system and I know how hard it is to get such a clean image out of it. It's a shame the 10k rig didnt actually end up working out but I'm glad you guys found this out earlier than later. The scaling of the canon system personally doesnt bother me that much, partly because I have a pimax headset and most people still use an oculus with the goggle FOV, so i can understand why scaling is more critical to them. I personally dont mind the slightly larger scale on closeups, I am a gonzo guy, so with the huge FOV i have, bigger is only better.
          Anyways, I'm sure you will find another chinese partner to work with soon enough. I am curious how much consideration your team has made on using a custom dual sony camera. I have seen some rigs with 2 a7siii camera and entaniya lenses that produce some stunning images and the low light performance and high frame rate options can produce some incredible results. I'm not certain but I think virtualtaboo might be using a sony system and I have always found their scenes to be some of the best in the industry. Would be curious to hear your thoughts on this type of a custom setup for now.

              LordCrash You 6k footage looks really lacking these days, sorry for being honest here. You have such good casting but technically, pretty much all 6k scenes of the last couple months are technically troubled. And it's not 100% only the camera, it's also the lighting and everything else in the productioin. The picture quality could be so much better with tech that is already available today and so could be the final quality of your scenes.

              Do you ever ask yourself how POVR/WVR is able to produce a much better picture with their 7k setup months ago? Compared with pretty much all recent POVR/WVR scenes the 6k SLR scenes look like shit. Period.

              It's no magic, just solid engineering and good knowledge of video hardware and software.

              I probably wouldn’t haven’t worded it so harshly, but yes, the POVR/Wankz rig is excellent. Both in terms of detail and scale.

              As far as SLR’s rig. Have you guys looked into increasing the bit rate? There seems to be quite a bit of detail loss and waxy skin because of it.

              I’m not at home, but IIRC, your videos hover in the 20-25mb/s range. I think POVR uses a rate around 45. But that’s for 7K. Maybe try boosting it up to 30-35?

              This is all for downloaded scenes of course. I have no idea what you guys use for streaming.

              And of course, there a point where higher bit rates plateau and don’t provide any additional image quality. Except make for larger file sizes. But currently, I think you guys are below that threshold.

              Anyways, just a thought.

                  bacula8630 when i owned the k2 pro, i would not dare render with anything less than 50mb/s That was already at or slightly above the plateau range for that resolution but 20-25 is way to low, that is barely suitable for non VR 4k footage.

                      metichemsi

                      I’m not totally confident about that 20-25mb/s number. I don’t have any files in front of me. So I can’t check the actual bit rate. I was just going by memory. I could be totally wrong.

                        bacula8630 As far as SLR’s rig. Have you guys looked into increasing the bit rate? There seems to be quite a bit of detail loss and waxy skin because of it.

                        metichemsi when i owned the k2 pro, i would not dare render with anything less than 50mb/s That was already at or slightly above the plateau range for that resolution but 20-25 is way to low, that is barely suitable for non VR 4k footage.

                        We've already had that discussion with SLR multiple times before...

                        They always claimed that a better bitrate wasn't needed and that there would be no visual difference for their scenes between e.g. 30 mbit/s and 60 mbit/s while pretty much everybody else just begged them to do it anyway.

                        At this point it's just plain ignorance on SLR's side and sadly pretty much beating a dead horse...

                            LordCrash
                            Agree, i recently rewatched Gianna Dior "Charm & Glam" (43GB version) which is 3 years old, and i was surprised how much better it looks than new ones. Then i rewatched some other ones, and almost all of them look better than recent ones.

                            I don't know what changed, but scenes before changing to Canon (and back to K2Pro again) looked much better.

                                Will65 We are still to do a repeat of the test on higher resolution headset. Sadly we didn't get to it yet.
                                To sum up - it is a business decision, our main goal is keeping streaming manageable for most users. And no, we wont offer additional bitrate for download at this moment.

                                    Sandi_SLR
                                    Your current business strategy is obviously delivering subpar video quality for everyone with subpar resolution, subpar lighting, subpar colors and subbar bitrate.

                                    So much talk about innovation at SLR around here on the forums and you guys still can't get the very basics right...

                                    Right now SLRO has the WORST video quality of all major VR porn studios both in the US and in Europe.

                                    You wanna compete for the VR Razzie Awards?

                                        mirdumar I don't know what changed, but scenes before changing to Canon (and back to K2Pro again) looked much better.

                                        thats a fact ☝️

                                        Sandi_SLR To sum up - it is a business decision, our main goal is keeping streaming manageable for most users.

                                        there are a myriad of lower resolution options for people who cant stream the max. why do you need to butcher the highest quality option to cater for the lowest common denominator?

                                              LordCrash spacepirate Focusing on bitrate here, did we remove the original file download option by any chance?

                                              Also pardon my ignorance, but who is streaming 8k videos at higher bitrates?

                                                    Sandi_SLR Focusing on bitrate here, did we remove the original file download option by any chance?

                                                    the original download option is a download option.. not a streaming option. even for people who download its not attractive for a few reasons:

                                                    • the storage implications of the excessive bitrate
                                                    • the need for fast wifi for reliable playback
                                                    • slr download limits

                                                    of course you already know that perfectly well yet you still present it as the solution

                                                    Also pardon my ignorance, but who is streaming 8k videos at higher bitrates?

                                                    as anyone who has ever subbed to another site and who isnt partially blind would know.. the streaming (and regular download) quality on slr sucks ass. if you want to stream slr vids with higher quality.. comparable to other sites.. you have no options available. if you want to download there is one very unattractive and potentially unviable option.

                                                        doublevr would be interesting to see how heresphere 8k streaming works with download files

                                                        poorly because of download limits. anyone who streams multiple vids can easily exhaust their entire quota in a single session.