Is 120fps life-like?

innol

Playing half an hour call of duty 6 with less than 60fps made me dizzy all afternoon so ia the 60fps vr video. Slr is the only studio that provides the 120fps videos that's awsome Sadly my hardware cannot match them . l will upgrade my hardware if 120fps is life-like

justsomedude101

innol There is not a huge amount of new 120fps content released afaik, in part (I'm guessing) due to an overall lack of interest.

From my experience it's also one of those categories that appears visually different to different people (...which I guess could be said for anything...). For example in my case - the videos tend to appear a tiny bit smoother, but otherwise there was not a super noticeable difference. For others though it may be a pretty large difference.

Rakly3

innol Playing half an hour call of duty 6 with less than 60fps made me dizzy all afternoon

Try disabling vsync. It's not going to increase the fps, but it might be easier on your eyes/brain. Same with VR, i recommend setting your headset to 90Hz even if the video is only 60fps.

The difference between 90Hz and 120Hz is minimal on a 60fps source. But 90 lasts your battery longer.

Aerowen

innol In a way yes, you will no longer notice it's a video anymore. I can only do the 90fps versions on my headset which is 90hz native and it's so much better.

It's a really noticeable improvement on content that moves a lot, like very bouncing tits in cowgirl. At 60fps you can really notice it's a video with the choppy horizontal frame-tearing lines as there is no v-sync, but even at 90 fps it's so much better.

Sadly they don't really do a lot of new scenes anymore, at least not at 90fps. And I'm not sure why SLR never promoted this stuff more as it's a clear bonus that other similar VR services don't offer. I see "low interest" is mentioned but perhaps a couple years ago people just didn't have the hardware to really use it but perhaps the larger file-sizes are an issue too.

ibins

Rakly3

Rakly3 Try disabling vsync. It's not going to increase the fps, but it might be easier on your eyes/brain. Same with VR

It actually increases visible FPS, with VSYNC the real FPS only can be integer divisors of the screens refresh rate, so if you have a 60Hz screen and only slightly under 60FPS you effectively only see 30FPS.

Rakly3 i recommend setting your headset to 90Hz even if the video is only 60fps.

The only advantage watching a 60FPS with 90Hz is the decrease in flickering. All the VR headsets use LMB, which is nothing else then a flickering backlight, and at 60Hz this is really bad.

But if your hardware can do it I would rather recommend 120Hz for a 60FPS video. Although the higher the refresh rate the less is the impact of a mismatch in refreshrate and framerate becomes less and less noticable.

Rakly3

ibins The only advantage watching a 60FPS with 90Hz is the decrease in flickering.

I was just trying to help him with the discomfort. So yes, less perceived flickering.

ibins so if you have a 60Hz screen and only slightly under 60FPS you effectively only see 30FPS.

This is incorrect.
You will still see all frames. Your display will draw whatever is in the GPU frame buffer. Some frames will be drawn twice.

It's the other way around, if you have more than 60FPS but only a 60Hz refresh rate, then you see effectively 60fps

EDIT, I misread your post I think. I thought you said "with Vsync disabled you will only see 30FPS." I see you said visible fps will increase with it disabled, and were just adding a bit more info to my post. 🙂
But yes, @innol if your game has vsync enabled, like I said, disable it if you render less than 60fps ingame.

ibins

Rakly3 This is incorrect.
You will still see all frames. Your display will draw whatever is in the GPU frame buffer. Some frames will be drawn twice.

I should clarify this. If the game uses double buffering (as many games, especially fast shooters do by default because of the reduced latency) and your GPU can not render at least your monitors refresh rate, your effective FPS will be halved.

This is because it can not start rendering the next frame until the monitor has finished painting the last frame on the screen.

Let´s say your GPU renders a frame in 20ms. At 60Hz your screen needs 17ms to paint a single frame.
What happens after the first frame is finished is that the monitor will start to paint the image while the GPU renders the next one. After 17ms the screen is finished and ready for a new frame. But the GPU has not finished the next frame, so it just sends the same frame again.
After 20ms the GPU finishes the next frame, but the screen still paints the first frame the second time and is only 3ms in.
Then the GPU has to wait, there is no buffer left, it just rendered in one buffer, and the other buffer still has the the frame drawn on the screen.
Only after the screen has finished drawing the first frame twice, so 33ms after start the buffer switches and the GPU can begin to render again.
So in this case you effectively get only a new frame every 33ms, or in other words 30FPS, even though your GPU could render 50.

Rakly3 It's the other way around, if you have more than 60FPS but only a 60Hz refresh rate, then you see effectively 60fps

Of course your FPS are also limited on the upper end to the monitors refresh rate.

Rakly3

Aerowen And I'm not sure why SLR never promoted this stuff more as it's a clear bonus that other similar VR services don't offer.

All I can say is, we are working on stuff. It just takes a lot of time (and money).
Even something simple as the script subscriptions was in development for about a year before it went live.

vrfanservice

We recorded part of Avery Black's SLRO scene inn 120fps to see what it'd look like in slo-mo. Shot on the K2, it reduced the FOV but it was interesting to use in exposition (we first faked this slo-mo effect with Amilia Onyx and then with Sidra Sage)

someoneX

Guys, you should finally get a screen with VRR support for gaming. Fixed framerates are a thing from the past. I'm using G-Sync since it was introduced over 6 years ago and now even PS5 and XSX offer VRR.

ibins

someoneX Guys, you should finally get a screen with VRR support for gaming.

I have it, but I do not use it. At 240Hz VRR is not really necessary, just play with VSYNC-OFF, tearing with 4ms frametimes is all but imperceptible, and LMB is much much better then VRR. Most screens do not support LMB + VRR together.