Not enough of an improvement over Quest 2 for me to buy it as an upgrade. If I were a first time buyer though, it would definitely give me food for thought as to whether Iād go for this over the Quest 2.
Pico 4 vs Quest 2
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Look at what's going on in America, if that's where you are ... No one in the news is talking about the Strategic Oil Reserves. For the past few months the gas prices have been kept artificially low for the upcoming American midterms. After the midterms there will be a major crash. Prices are going to skyrocket because it will be next to impossible for the Americans to maintain their supply chain. Most goods that they purchase are delivered by trucks, cars, or some form of gas-based vehicle. Heating costs are going to go sky high (remember that war in Ukraine? When Putin shuts down that pipeline to Germany the Europeans will need energy from somewhere). I don't have a good headset, but if I had the money I'd buy one now. Things are going to get lots more expensive, for Americans and countries, like mine, linked to their economy. Expect lots of economic migrants from literal starvation. Buy stuff today because your money won't go as far tomorrow.
[deleted] damn G you scaring me, I'm just trying to watch sum hotties! Lol
Better watch all I can before my electricity goes out or we get hit by something that kills us all, sheesh 
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In the uk we have been forced to wank away the fear of the immenent economic collapse, after all the government and power companys cant take our money if we already spent it on a headset, toys and scripts.
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Watch porn until the power goes off! New strategy for the UK. QE2 would approve.
Apologies for the dark observation, but the advice is honest. Buy stuff now cause tomorrow the price goes up.
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, lot of crazy situations going on right now, sucks 
Hell, my gearvr didn't work anymore cuz they updated my samsung 10+ which caused me to have to buy an oculus, the bright side being I bought it a lil before they raised the price
Vrsumo2017 l think you have already had the Reverb G2 :
innol nah, I bought an quest 2 right before they up the price.
if the pico really has better lenses and FOV, it might be worth it.. they claim there are "no black rims&bars" in the FOV anymore with the pancake lenses
Currently if you are rich get quest pro ,if not choose pico 4 both of them have colorful passthrough quest 2 is outdated..
It's hard to beat Facebook when they plowing 10bs a year into VR AR stuff
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I exchanged words with the Zuck back in the day. Spending money is not making money. Facebook's business model was never about making money, although they made some money. Zuck is in it for higher goals. FB / Meta can spend billions on R&D but what we see with Pico 4 (I suspect) is incredible corporate espionage. How did Pico develop a clone of Quest Pro launched a month before Quest Pro? Obvious answer: for every billion FB / Meta spends on R&D, Pico / ByteDance only needs to spend a much smaller amount to steal the project specs, or to take the ideas when someone leaks them, and they win. FB / Meta will never be able to manufacture goods as cheaply as any Chinese corporation. Unless FB / Meta is willing to sell what they create at a loss they will always lose in the developmental costs to Chinese companies. In the words of Steve Jobs, "Good artists copy, great artists steal". And the pirates of Silicon Valley just got pirated by the great buccaneers of the CCP!
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I should add, because there is one card that hasn't been played. The big deal about eye-tracking probably has to do with multi-focal technologies, because FB / Meta wants to create a replacement for the desktop-monitor. Eye-tracking allows readers to hold virtual books and to skim through virtual documents. I wouldn't be surprised if the real 'surprise' of the Quest Pro launch was the reveal that FB / Meta perfected multi-focal tech.
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sounds like another case of chinese stealing other peoples ideas to create a knockoff instead of creating their own. But like every chinese knockoff, they are never as good quality wise as the original. Also headsets like many other electronic devices is only as good as its software/drivers and I doubt it will receive the amount of software support and reliability that a meta headset will. Pico im sure is more focused on churning out new version headsets as soon as they can rather than perfecting one and giving it long term support, kinna similar to how also chinese owned pimax operates
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Not creepy at all, right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXZt4Dd0GFg
This is the official launch video for Pico 4. The project looks great, but these guys don't spend enough on marketing.
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[deleted] remember that war in Ukraine? When Putin shuts down that pipeline to Germany the Europeans will need energy from somewhere
Well, I honestly didn't think that America would blow up the damn Nord Stream 2 pipeline, which is what it's looking like now @Vrsumo2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLb0QeCQF_I
Cray-Cray-Crazy at a new level.
Check out the leaked Quest 3 AutoCAD files posted elsewhere on the forum. Probably gonna cost a lot, tho.
Don't get all the love for the Pico 4. It won't be available in the Us for launch, and it will likely sell in China before getting here. I have my doubts we'll ever see it sold in the US.
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mookiemeatball My opinion: Pico 4 will be released in North America as soon as the European market is stable. Bytedance already announced that some of the preorders will not be available to ship immediately on Oct. 18, and orders will be filled in the order they were received. That seems to indicate demand is higher than anticipated. Once all the backorders are filled and there is an adequate supply to keep the current European market orders filled, they should be able to get a good estimate of what the North American demand would be and have a good revenue stream to apply toward stockpiling enough headsets for the North America launch. Meanwhile, North Americans can order copies from European sellers if they are so eager to acquire early. If Europe and North America had launched at the same time, either the production shortfall would be far worse than it is, alienating more customers who had preordered, or else they would have had to ramp up production to a much greater degree or delay the launch.
What they are doing makes sense to me. And if they do effective marketing within TikTok they could bring a whole new customer base to VR. So I predict Pico 4 will be released in the US within six months.
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mookiemeatball It won't be available in the Us for launch
Who buys stuff on launch day, anyway? Wait a week and buy through retail, because unless demand is really high stores will get these.
I understand that you may not "love" Pico. So, buy a Quest 2 if you haven't done so already or consider getting Quest Pro, if you can afford it (Pico 4 has better screens)