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  • Fake tits, lip fillers, botox and drawn-on eyebrows -- does it have to stop?

mebejoe that’s totally cool, we all have our different tastes and, in an ideal world, it would be great to have all natural girls but I wouldn’t just want to see all nubile flat chested teens. I like to see girls with big natural tits too but there’s less of those about and, over time, those tits start to drop so I can live with girls getting help to achieve that classic pornstar look like Jenna Jameson, Pamela Anderson etc. (I know Pamela only did softcore stuff but you know the look I mean). Savannah Bond is the modern day oldschool pornstar and I think she looks hot with her enhanced body.

There are others though that I wouldn’t want to touch anything. Riley Reid or Emily Willis have perfect petite figures and look great as they are. I couldn’t imagine them with huge fake tits.

    mebejoe sometimes i wonder if its done on purpose, as a deterrent to being hounded by blokes all the time, and if it is that, thats very sad, and for porn stars it makes there videos really suffer,

    anna claire clouds was insanely hot when she first came around, now i cant watch her vids, god i hope rika fane stays clear of it

    i think i go for the deterrent theory as my brain struggles to accept that these girls look in the mirror and think its and improvement, because i no for a fact if it was me i would want it out of my lips immediatly and wouldnt touch it again, its basically self sabatage

        I find it frustrating that I'm attracted to women in their 30s or 40s but it's rare to see a natural one in porn. I don't get excited at fake tits at all. It feels like I'm looking at some hard oddly shaped object covering her chest. Duck lips are a huge turn off for me too. Botox and drawn eyebrows less so. Only time drawn eyebrows would be a plus is if it's a chonga (ghetto latin girl), then that'd actually be a huge turn on for me. I haven't found one in porn yet though.

        Ricster89 i think i go for the deterrent theory as my brain struggles to accept that these girls look in the mirror and think its and improvement, because i no for a fact if it was me i would want it out of my lips immediatly and wouldnt touch it again, its basically self sabatage

        They are being pushed along by the strong current of social conditioning. All their friends are having their lips done. Human perceptions are incredibly susceptible to peer pressure and societal trends. She looks in the mirror with her huge lips, she sees someone who's "with the times" – and if you don't like it, you're whatever the modern word for "square" is. And, if anyone argues, she's a strong, independent woman, and it's her body, her choice. 🤣

        It doesn't just affect women. I know guys who I can show a plus-size model to (who is medically obese) and they will tell me, "She's not fat! She's beautiful!" Why? Because "the message" has got in their heads and they have no critical faculty for rejecting such propaganda. Their thoughts now distort their own visual field.

        It's not like we're immune from it, either. I watched an ATK Hairy video with the full-on, completely unshaved legs the other day, just to see if I could do it, and the social conditioning towards perfectly smooth legs kicked in very hard. I had to remind myself I wasn't looking at a dude. But those judgments eventually relaxed and I realized I was looking at something ancient -- Human Female 1.0. And I was good with it. 🙂

        Never underestimate the distorting power of social conditioning on one's perceptions. I have read many comments, on this site and others, where someone was saying a guy with an uncut dick was "gross", and that the studio should only hire circumcised male talent. That commenter thinks a dick that hasn't been mutilated is gross. Why? Social conditioning. He's had his own dick mutilated, so he needs the world to be on the same page. In his eyes, an uncut dick is an abomination. His thoughts will distort his visual field in this way.

        These are our models. They occur entirely within our thoughts. They cause us never to see the world how it truly is. We only see the distortions, and we take that as real.

        Okay, rant over. 🙂

            Yeah, it ruins the models imho. Charlie Red was better before the boobjob, did anna claire clouds get a lipjob? Something changed about her, and I think her earlier vr content was hotter.
            Same with overdone makeup or lashes. Sometimes it gets to the point where it obstructs the innate beauty of the model. Glamour is always good ... but it can be taken too far.

            petermc It’s a porn site, porn is fantasy

            Of course it's fantasy. The fantasy is that any of these women would get near me in the first place.
            If I even suspect they might be implants, that's an instant skip for me.

              LordCrash Sure, when you hide the scars. One of the biggest boner killers for me, when you look up to a girl in cowgirl only to see the scars under her boobs right in front of your eye. Seriously nothing, absolutely nothing hot about that...

              I think you are looking at scars, they are around nipples

                  Philip Almost nobody does boob jobs with cuts around the nipples these days. That was en vogue like 10 years ago. Today most girls have scars under their fake boobs, e.g. girls like Kenna James, Elsa Jean, Charlie Red, Natalie Nix etc etc etc

                      LordCrash

                      I am wondering why. Morgan Lee has the scars around her nipples, and they almost perfectly blend in. Looks so much better then the underboob scars.

                        Philip ooh I have an idea: a scene with Emma Hix. They look pretty similar so it could be sisters, or just friends.

                          LordCrash People have different tastes. I didn't like her at all before and for me she is more attractive now.

                          For my part i like a good mix of videos of natural girls and fake girls.

                            90% of the time, fake breasts degrade the overall appearance. Usually the scars, dents or unnatural shape are far more unattractive than anything the actress hoped to achieve with her surgery.

                            There may be cases in which the natural breasts had enormous aesthetic flaws and therefore an improvement is achieved, but this usually doesn't make them a real eye-catcher. When it comes down to size, the disadvantages almost always outweigh the improvements.

                            Injected lips are good at most to satisfy the fantasy of a particularly stupid woman who does everything to please men. If you want to engage in this fantasy, they can be helpful. The extreme cases have completely messed up breasts and lips that almost burst. Then we have finally arrived at the pure sex object.

                              someoneX The extreme cases have completely messed up breasts and lips that almost burst. Then we have finally arrived at the pure sex object.

                              Exactly. Men were blamed for decades for making women into "sex objects". Yet, when given complete freedom, it turns out it is something women love to do to themselves and each other. 🙂

                              Part of my "upside-down world" model (just assume the opposite to whatever you hear society say, and that's probably more true).

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                                  BobbyBadass

                                  It's a matter of Media and how Big Media can shape thoughts and expectations. The same reason you want that brand new cell phone that actually does less than last year's model, or maybe you vote in a certain way, often reflects the incredible power of repetition and suggestion to shape you into something you are not. It's one of the root causes of unhappiness in Western Culture.

                                  The Media doesn't just advertise to men anymore. The Mechanical Bride of the 1950s has become the Dolled-up Tart of the 2020s. You are what you look like, not how you think.

                                    I enjoy all tits! Small, flat, big, huge, fake! All of it!
                                    Cosmetic? I'm ok with everything, make up no make up, big lips small lips, I just want great PSE in vr and great camera work!

                                    Women in porn get boob jobs (and any cosmetic surgery really) for two main reasons as far as I can tell:

                                    1) They think it will make them look better. By far the main reason.

                                    2) They think they’ll be more popular with porn fans and get more work.

                                    In terms of number 1) lots of women can be self-conscious about being flat chested and get a boob job as it gives them more self-confidence and makes them feel more feminine and sexier. It may also be that they had great natural boobs at 18 years old but gravity and/or having children has taken it’s toll and they are now self conscious that their boobs have dropped and, in their eyes, are not as aesthetically pleasing. They therefore get them done to feel better. Could also be a medical issue where they had to remove their breasts and had surgery to give them back what they’ve lost.

                                    In terms of number 2) lots of men are attracted to women with big tits and, more importantly for porn producers, fantasise about women with big tits. There are porn fans of course (and VR fans seem particularly weighted this way) that like slender nubile teen looking girls but big boobs are still a thing. If a woman walks into a room in a low cut top with sizeable cleavage pushed up almost spilling over the top, mens eyes will be drawn to it. I am one of those people. I can enjoy petite girls like Emily Willis and Riley Ried but I also like big boobs and, sacrilegious as it may be to some, fake boobs often look better to me than real ones. They probably don’t feel better but, as I’m only a viewer, that doesn’t matter. Really standout scars don’t look great but I usually don’t notice them. Obviously there are fake boobs that don’t look great but lots do to me.

                                    Where I’m a bit of a hypocrite is that, whilst I have no objection to fake boobs, I don’t like fake asses at all. I’m like you all are with fake boobs in that I think fake asses look a weird shape and unnatural, just entirely unattractive. There may be lots of fake asses that I don’t know are fake and look great but the ones that are clearly fake actually put me off the performer. Mia Malkova was amazing to me before the fake ass, Lana Rhoades the same, Nikki Benz the same. I went off all of them once they got their asses done.

                                    I don’t notice the Botox/lip filler stuff as much as you guys seem to so it’s not a huge issue for me. It can go too far with the facial cosmetic surgery though where they start to get that weird cat-like face. For the most part though, it’s only fake asses that I have an issue with but I’m sure women get that done for the same reasons as fake boobs.

                                      petermc I have no problem with bigger breasts, only if they are fake. In many VR productions the performers play a specific role and very few plots are based on the actress playing a slut.

                                      These are supposed to be college girls, the girl next door or a frustrated housewife. In reality, these groups of people usually don't have bad breast surgeries with scars and dents, but more likely - especially from a certain size and age - not perfectly shaped breasts.

                                      That's also a problem I have with all the overused porn talk and exaggerated sex acts. These spit blowjobs up to the gag reflex are for example okay if it suits the role played. Such a blowjob fits a BDSM scene or when a rather inexperienced and insecure woman thinks she has to offer something special, without knowing how to give a really good and sensual blowjob.

                                      Otherwise they only destroy the immersion and almost feel like a bad porn parody, because the girl next door neither gets the idea to give out such blowjobs nor does she repeat the same phrases all the time during sex (unless she's retarded). I don't understand why many producers think that's what users want to see.

                                      Yes we want variation, but it's not variation if you just reuse the same five positions and the same cheap porn talk in every single movie. The variation has to be between different movies, not within one movie by including every act some users might like to see. The real problem isn't that there's too much vanilla porn, the problem ist that the structure is the same for 90% of the released videos.

                                      And no, if users tell you, they want harder stuff, that doesn't mean you have to include those wet blowjobs all the time. Harder doesn't mean that the girl has to act and talk like the biggest slut possible - that's not hard - it just makes her look dumb.