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https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/porn-laws-age-verification-plans-explained-online-safety-bill-b981539.html

How will this effect VR porn sites like SLR when using Oculus Quest 2 ?
This isn't something new in the UK the British government talked about this Law Bill years ago but it fell flat on it's face , I mean they are asking users to show credit card and passport as age verification, I trust SLR but I don't trust giving my bank details to other sites , how would I be able to use a VPN on a Oculus Quest 2 ?

    Redhulk50 surely you have used your credit card to subscribe to the site so age has been verified already?

      petermc Oh that's right I forgot about that , but what about other VR sites where I haven't used my bank card and I won't be using my bank card?

        In the article

        The bill is seen as one of the most far-reaching attempts to date to regulate online content, which could have global implications.

        That's actually not correct.

        A bill, pre-filed earlier this month by state lawmaker Bill Chumley, called the Human Trafficking Prevention Act, would require computer makers and sellers to install filters that would prevent users from accessing porn and other sexual material.

        This would, if it had passed, require people to request the block to be removed on their PC by the state govmnt.

        Computer or device buyers would be able to pay to have the block removed, however.

        https://www.zdnet.com/article/new-state-bill-wants-porn-blocks-on-new-computers/


        Whenever you read or hear "the most", "the biggest", "the least", etc. In your head add the phase, "that you know of" 😉

        Studies show that around half of 11 to 13-year-olds have seen pornography at some point,

        As if kids didn't before. I had hidden some pages in my room I came by one way or another at that age (1990's). And I'm pretty sure my mom knew.

        Redhulk50 last time this was mooted, they said that they’d bring out a card that you could buy in a news agent for about £5.00 or something and they’d obviously have to verify you were over 18 before selling it to you. You could then use this card to sign into adult sites. It’s not a payment card or anything, it’s just literally a card that says that someone has verified that you are over 18.

        This will be the 3rd or 4th time they’ve tried this though so don’t be surprised if it never happens.

        To be honest I’m not totally against it. I don’t think young kids should just be able to go straight onto tube sites like pornhub/xvideos and just watch super extreme porn with no checks. In the old days when porn was bought in shops, magazines or vhs/dvd, you had to be 18 to buy it.

        I also think you should have to pay for porn so am against the free sites, even if I do use them in conjunction with the many sites I pay for.

          @petermc if you dont want your kids to have access to it block the shit on your network, with a proxy, content filtering , dns or any other the other commerical solutions. This shouldnt be gov enforced.

          petermc Yes I remember reading about buying a card from a newsagent that enables you to verify your age on porn sites , if the UK government do this nonsense with cards to me it's just another way for the government to make more money basically it's a another Tax or as someone called it A Wankers Tax 😂, you talked about the past where you had to be over 18 to buy porn mags or hire Blue movies from video shops , in the late 80s , 90s and 2000s you could buy hardcore VHS from flea markets , hardcore movies copied onto VHS blank tapes, buying these videos were expensive and it was pot luck whether they were good quality and there wasn't much variety , it was also embarrassing buying it ,give me online porn any day, it's 2022 but it's becoming more like 1984 Big Brother .

            Redhulk50 oh yeah, I’m not being nostalgic for those days, it was a nightmare and it’s way better having it online (except for the fact that credit card companies can now dictate what content we’re allowed to see). I’m just saying you used to have to pay for porn and be an adult. Now there’s a bunch of free porn that you can just click on without any age checks. I get that you can turn on the parental control to block access but I don’t know if they are fool proof or not (do they block everything?) Also not all adults are that technically savvy to know how to do it. I also think free porn has really damaged the industry.

            I don’t disagree about detesting the government and I don’t know their reasoning. I’m just saying I don’t disagree with the principle of stopping young kids from accessing free super hardcore porn.

            I will say though that they actually relaxed the obscenity laws quite a lot in the last few years. You can shoot/watch pretty much any consensual porn in the U.K. now including stuff like watersports. There’s actually less censorship now than ever in U.K. porn.

            I’m still not convinced they’ll ever be able to do what they’re proposing as they’ve tried it a couple of times before and failed. I think it’s just something they see as a vote winner with their ultra conservative supporters so they bring it up from time to time.

            a month later

            I wouldn't worry too much about it if I were you. There are a huge number of free porn sites and paid ones. You can just watch free porn, and the problem with providing your passport data will be solved. I would also not want to give my personal data to some porn site.
            I watch free sex chat recorder on vidsofcams. In addition, on this site, you can watch free porn videos. I'm not asked to provide any personal information, which is cool. I don't want my wife to know in any way that I'm watching porn. That way, I don't have any reason to worry. Feel free to enjoy porn.

            Most sites have some free content whether it be trailers or, in the case of tube sites like pornhub, entire scenes. There’s tons of porn out there that doesn’t require a credit card.

            I wouldn’t worry too much about it until it happens, if it ever does.

            4 months later

            I also don't trust various porn sites with my credit card data because many scam sites disappear after gaining access to bank accounts. For instance, even though I love https://livepornguide.com/girls/livejasmin, I watch it for free -- it's my rule not to give money to the adult entertainment industry. VPN services will not help you -- I don't know how, but adult content sites see through them. It seems that the only way is to ensure the site requesting your credit card data is reliable.

              LeeSaymon The UK Government have put this Bill on hold until they elect a new Prime Minister after Boris Johnson stepped down, but they are saying the Bill is dead and won't see the light of day which is good news, we all know the bill is really about internet censorship and Big Brother control.
              I remember when they tried to introduce this bill a few years ago the plan was you had to prove your age online with your credit card, passport or driving license or you could go to a local newsagent and buy a code that could be used online , it's total bollocks like you say it's very risky giving your personal details online it just won't work, let's hope it never rears its ugly head again .

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              LeeSaymon There's no stopping them now though since they've found a way to eliminate one-off payment cards. Have you noticed that sites just no longer accept Vanilla Visa, and similar cards, for most transactions? A few months ago these cards changed their policy for association with a postal code, presumably since folks were just giving fake codes. Now they say you can enter a postal code, but only for one-off purchases on Amazon or eBay. Since adult networks require the potential subscription for multiple months (activation of auto-renewals) all the gift cards have stopped working.

              On a separate note, I just don't understand how you guys in the U.K. have surrendered so many of your liberties. So representatives from the BBC can enter your home or rental property at any time, without a search warrant, to check whether you have a television. Most other countries, even the dictatorships, have more freedom than that!

                [deleted] I don’t think the gift card/porn thing was a big thing in the U.K. I think that’s more of an American thing. I can understand them bringing it to an end as most subscription sites, porn or otherwise, rely on auto-renewals and people forgetting (or not bothering) to cancel for a large portion of their income.

                The TV License thing is not quite as crazy as you say. Basically, in the UK, you are legally required to have a licence to watch broadcast tv (you don’t need it for Netflix, Disney+ etc.) This money funds the BBC tv and radio stations. The same way that you need a licence to drive a car on a public highway.

                If you are a household without a tv licence, and they suspect you are watching broadcast tv, they will write to you to ask if you are watching tv and advise you to get a licence. If no response, further increasingly threatening letters will be sent. They will eventually come to your home but cannot force their way in without a warrant. You can refuse to let them in if you want to. It’s all pretty rare, I think for it to get that far. I’m not sure how they could ever prove what you are watching on your tv. Maybe they have equipment to detect that.

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                @petermc I lived in the UK for a short while under pretty sketchy poverty circumstances. I just remember not having a T.V. and receiving dozens of messages of harassment from some overseeing counsel saying they would arrive at my apartment one day, force their way in (or pressure the landlord), and then give me a huge fine. When I was there I didn't watch T.V. owing largely to the expense. I recall there was "BBC iPlayer" which my then-girlfriend used to watch. But she never watched it from my flat. Indeed, I didn't even have Internet service because of the ridiculous costs of a moderate-speed connection. No one could afford iPlayer speeds. I enjoyed the BBC back then on occasion, while at pubs. Now it's very hard to watch. I stopped watching it, and don't even read it anymore. SLR provides better, more innovative and original, entertainment!

                Yeah, I think you still need a tv licence to watch the iPlayer as it’s primarily a catch up service for what they showed on their broadcast tv channels. If it wasn’t in your house though, that wouldn’t be an issue.

                Lots of discussion in the UK at the moment as to why we are effectively legally forced to pay a monthly subscription to the BBC or not watch any broadcast tv at all. Some feel that the BBC is so important that it’s justified. Others feel like it should be an optional subscription like every other tv service.

                Sorry they hounded you while you were here, I suppose it’s hard to believe anyone doesn’t have a tv these days!

                Going back to the original subject, I’m still very sceptical about the online safety bill going through in it’s current form as they have never been able to figure it out. I think it’s just seen as a vote winner so they keep mentioning it. I’m actually someone who does pay for porn on my credit card so it wouldn’t really affect me too much.

                I do agree with the Government (very hard for me to say I agree with these scumbags on anything) to the extent that it is far too easy for kids to access porn and incredibly extreme porn at that. There should be some protection in place to keep it for adults only. I know people will say it’s the parents responsibility and they should put parental controls on but I have no idea how effective that is or how easy it is to circumvent. As a parent you also can’t control other parents so your kid could be watching super extreme pornography on a friend’s phone or computer. We’re not talking about the old days of seeing someone’s Dad’s Playboy magazine and looking at titties. We’re talking violent porn, girls getting beaten, pissed on, throat fucked until they puke. Kids shouldn’t be seeing that stuff at a formative age. Leave it to perverted adults like me who know the difference between porn and real life!