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ZENRA We had this talk before and it does not seem like you care to look into the actual laws.

I have no idea what you're talking about. I said nothing about laws. If you mean the term "theocracy" I apply that to Amercian society and not only the government. Society forms the government, not the other way round.

ZENRA Of course, if you do not agree and really think current payment solutions for adult is broken beyond repair, perhaps instead of posting here, you may wish to raise some venture funding and create your own global processing network?

I'm not making money in this industry and I don't work in this industry, I'm only a customer giving feedback. Either take it or leave it but don't act like the customers were responsible for problems at the company or that the customers should fix things the company is there to fix, that's pathetic and completely unprofessional.

        LordCrash If you mean the term "theocracy" I apply that to Amercian society and not only the government.

        Since I have lived in america my whole life then I think I can talk about it's history and society today and not keep pointing out all of the great thinks germany's society has done.

        America has a long history since the beginning with Europeans that were persecuted for the religion getting on a boat coming over here. Because of that we still have lingering religion everywhere. More in the countryside than in the city's I'm an atheist and hate it. If you would like to come over here and tell all these religious people they are wrong and to stop believing it, that would be great. I have been trying my whole life.

        The problem is even if you don't believe it, America is still pretty free. So all the religious people get just as much say as everybody else. They are organized and loud even if they are not a majority. So if you are a credit card company and 40% of people scream at you to stop something. Then you do it rather you want to or not. The other 60% don't scream for porn rights.

        I hate religion but blaming america for all the problems sounds a little jealous. Why doesn't Germany or France or some other country make the biggest credit card companies in the world. Then us Americans can blame you guys for something we don't like for a change. I'm sure your society is perfect and has it all figured out.

            rerun119 Why doesn't Germany or France or some other country make the biggest credit card companies in the world.

            Good question. There should definitely be a European credit card company.

            rerun119 I hate religion but blaming america for all the problems sounds a little jealous.

            I don't know what you mean by "all the problems". We only talk about one specific problem here.

            rerun119 I'm sure your society is perfect and has it all figured out.

            Haha, far from it... 😉

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                    doublevr no one would have any issue with that. Stopping stuff like revenge porn, upskirting etc. All porn should have the performers signing off on the scene, that’s absolutely correct.

                    That’s real life consent which is totally different to what we’re talking about which is fictional consent in the scene storyline itself. Not that I’m advocating for CNC scenes, absolutely not, but having someone, who is clearly about to have sex with you anyway, sip a glass of (probably fake alcohol free) champagne or even just having a glass on the table is not CNC. That’s taking it to an almost absurd extreme.

                        Also some few adult friendly electronic banks do stop operating recently.
                        Doing compliance right is the key 👍️

                          doublevr It''s pretty wild but I've never considered how who a porn company does banking with could affect the types of porn available to me but it makes sense after hearing baout how challenging banks relaitonship with adult content is in general.

                            i know only fans has had me delete a cartoon sexy pic in the avatar or profile....they are extremely vigilant

                            petermc @doublevr for shits and giggleshave a glass of wine 🍷 with a bottle of Oceanspray CranRaspberry next to it 🤣🤣🤣🥲 and make it like a meme in any scenes with a bar that stocks nothing but cranberry and all its variants of combo flavors 🤣🤣🤣

                              doublevr

                              petermc summed it up pretty well above, and having to remove all amateur content is signalling a pretty big swing if they're really starting to crack down on that widespread. but as far as removing content with alcohol or whatever, which is ludicrous in the first place, are there not written contracts between performers and studios in place for the scenes they shoot that would indicate consent regardless of the scenario in the scene? and i would assume these studios are legally obligated to keep these records, so if there was any issue as to legality or if someone was unable to consent wouldn't that issue be between the bank and the studio itself? why would 3rd party sites like slr have anything to do with removal of scenes if the studio itself was not forced to remove the same scene from their own website? and i assume all these sites use the same credit card companies slr and other 3rd party sites use to charge members for monthly membership. just hard to figure out why slr has to remove it, but not the studio itself? all of this seems vague as to why some and not others

                                  doorsareopen are there not written contracts between performers and studios in place for the scenes they shoot that would indicate consent regardless of the scenario in the scene?

                                  for all professionally shot scenes.. yes. for a lot of amateur stuff.. no.

                                  doorsareopen just hard to figure out why slr has to remove it, but not the studio itself?

                                  they dont have to.. they are opting to because its the safer road.

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                                      doublevr This is why I said you should stay away from Deepfakes altogether at least in the beginning until it goes to the courts.
                                      Because it is for sure without a doubt going to go to court. Voices, AI faces, it doesn't matter what it is. People are going to be scared of this tech and try to stop it.

                                        Seems like a waste of time to try to stop it. Newer and better quality stuff comes out constantly.. and if it's not some big company, then it's any regular joe with some money and/or knowhow that just does it for free because they want something better themselves, or open source. Wack-a-mole. It would seem the original images would have to be copyrighted.. or at least not made available publicly to have a case against someone altering them. Who's stopping somebody from printing out an image and cutting off the head and pasting it onto a Playboy magazine? How are you going to stop that? Or the digital equivalent.. cut out the head in a digital picture and paste it on a different body. The high tech AI I'm sure would look more consistent, but it's not like there aren't low tech options that anybody with MS Paint couldn't figure out how to do in seconds.

                                          Surprising coming from San Francisco btw, who are fine with g@y everything, celebrating butt stuff with parades.. making knowingly spreading HIV a misdemeanor instead of a felony, some promoting or working toward under age stuff, or grooming children to be LGBT, etc... strange that place are the ones wanting to go against AI digital fake porn images.

                                          TemporaryName I'm not saying that the people suing are going to win. That doesn't mean they can't take you to court. If SLR is the biggest VR Porn site and somebody gets a stick up their ass and wants to try to stop it. Then SLR would have to pay a shit load of money and years of time for the courts to say they win.
                                          I just wouldn't do it and let them sue someone else first. I'm no lawyer but I have lived in the United States for 40+ years and this is going to happen to some company. But, SLR can do what they want.