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I'd personally be down for both. An amateur one might be fun for the new faces imho (assuming it was still shot by the same Euro crew & rig you typically use), and especially since you'd go into the scene without any idea of what to expect from each of the girls.

I'm sure there are a hundred better examples, but first thing that comes to mind for me is the old Dancing Bear series: basically a big party with dozens of amateur girls and the guys would just shift from girl to girl every few minutes. Of course in VR it would have to be reversed to avoid all the camera movement, so maybe something more like a "VRB World Cup", but I digress...

Anyways I feel like Porn Stars would of course be fantastic, but amateurs could be a nice change-up since Euro scenes in general tend to feature that same rotating catalogue of 30 or so girls that get shot over and over by every one of the Euro studios. As much as I genuinely love Alexis Crystal or Veronica Leal or Lola Myluv...they are in just so, so many scenes as it is.

Like I said before I think in the long run a mix of both amateurs and professional pornstars in the same scene might be the most viable solution. I mean, for the first harem scene you already gathered like 1/4 of all major active European pornstars. It's not like there were hundreds of them out there. But I also don't think that a 100% amateur scene would be as enjoyable as a one in which professional pornstars do the heavy lifting. In VR, even more than in 2D porn, experience and a solid, believable performance are everything.

Edit: I'm pretty surprised about the current result polls tbh. I wish some of the amteurs-only supporters would actually participate in the discussion and share their take. I honestly don't see how amateurs only would make for a more enjoyable experience.

    Sorry in advance for the wall of text...

    LordCrash experience and a solid, believable performance are everything.

    Ooh yeah, that's a solid point that I didn't think about. Having girls familiar with the "ins and outs" of VR shooting could definitely make a huge difference. Otherwise eyes looking at the stunt cock's eyes instead of the camera, etc etc etc,

    I personally voted "both" in the survey, but I would imagine that there are a few reasons some dudes would want an amateur shoot. Usually when you think "amateur" on Pornhub (or wherever), it brings to mind authentic and genuine performances, as opposed to the over-the-top or over-acted performances that 75% of porn stars give off. Is there any reason to think the amateurs wouldn't copy this themselves knowing they're shooting a porn though? Not really...but there's always hope. Maybe the direction given to them is "look here" and the rest is left up to them.

    Also for me personally, it might add a bit of "realism" to the scenario. When I put on the VR headset, I'm obviously going to enjoy whatever I'm viewing, but seeing a girl who I obviously know is an actress because I've seen her in 46 other VR porn scenes can be a bit of a downer. In the "dream scenario" of an amateur harem series, I'm accosted by 20 gorgeous girls who I've never seen before, as though I actually am the only dude to show up to the orgy/the male stripper at a bachelorette party/etc. Wishful thinking? For sure, but still helps a bit with the "believability" factor.

    Lastly: irl every girl has her own style and takes things at her own pace, has her own preferences, etc. And to me that's one of the more enjoyable parts of sex. Having amateurs who each behave & react a bit differently and don't need to pretend to have orgasms after 20 seconds of dick-riding might be a breath of fresh air.

    Of course I know all the above is 100% a dream scenario and seriously impractical to shoot in VR, but nevertheless...

      If the linked harem video features the amateurs, then I'm very pleased with those girls. But who are porn stars to compare them to?

      doublevr wow, the girls look absolutely amazing. Good combination of amateurs and pro's and the make-up etc is done very well also. Can't wait for more to come.

        Oops totally missed this thread. I replied on reddit lol. Let me copy/paste below, and a few more comments:

        I voted for "pornstars" but if this first episode's cast is considered "amateur" then I'd be totally fine with "amateurs" as well. A little mix is fine too. Just as long as they are into it, focused, and look like they are having a good time. When I think of true "amateurs" they may be too intimidated or uncomfortable in such a huge group setting. But the cast in episode 1 look like they are having a grand ol' time. As will I =)

        Should release this one in the least week of December

        AMAZING!! I was crossing my fingers for that!

        Definitely looking to air one Harem series on a monthly basis.

        Um... I'm already lifetime. How else can I support this cause?!?! Buy two lifetimes!?? <3 <3 <3 I will bequeath it to my heir.

        As for any new comments: I guess I really would like to know how we are classifying "amateurs?" And I think it would have helped with the poll results. To some, maybe "amateurs" just means young, petite, natural women, where as "pornstars" might mean the big-boobed, less GFE type performers. Or maybe "amateurs" might mean zero experience in porn (which is what I thought you meant initially), which is something that I would absolutely NOT want in a VR harem series.

        As I've said before, harem scenes are probably the most difficult to film and get right. That's why so many studios have done multi-girl scenes and the results are less than stellar. If there is too much commotion, or too many women looking bored or uncomfortable or "left out" then it won't be an engaging scene. So whatever the performer is "classified" as, it's just important they are experienced in VR and of course, somewhat attractive =) hahah.

        Awesome guys! Really love the feedback.

        I would take the blame for not knowning pornstars scene as more people pointed out the scene was not amateur at all. Well, at least these were new to me LOL. Basically I asked to get girls that look next door and just start their career. Not amateurs per se. We got fewer girls on the set than expected because of COVID and holiday season around the corner. I guess it was the latest production this year.

        Anyway we will be trying all sorts of Harem, eventually bringing to it the US.

        Just for a record chances are we will get into Party Hardcore in spring 2022.

        Totally looking forward. The best things are yet to come

          doublevr Anyway we will be trying all sorts of Harem, eventually bringing to it the US.

          Yes. Nice! That's the best solution imho. Just do a lot of different things and spice things up every now and then. Bigger and smaller groups. Amateurs and pornstars. Stories of all kinds. US and Euro talent. The possibilities are endless and I'm so pleased to here that you're so open to stuff and that you are really willing to experiment and to push the boundaries of VR porn. Sounds like a great plan for 2022. Rock on! 🙌

            doublevr I would take the blame for not knowning pornstars scene as more people pointed out the scene was not amateur at all. Well, at least these were new to me LOL.

            Ahahahah, sounds like you have been neglecting your headset @doublevr ! Time for you to watch more porn!!! =))) JK. That's awesome to hear and yes, the girl-next-door casting really looks good for this one. So you hit the mark exactly what you were hoping for =)

            doublevr We got fewer girls on the set than expected because of COVID and holiday season around the corner.

            No complaints here! 14 is plenty! It really comes down to how these harem scenes are filmed and how many will be engaged with the viewer/stunt cock at the same time. But of course, aim for the stars of course!

            doublevr Anyway we will be trying all sorts of Harem, eventually bringing to it the US.

            I am so happy to hear about this. Never thought I'd see the day when a harem series or a harem site will become into existence. Can't wait to see all the different interpretations of each, and how each develop over 2022. I was just chatting with a fellow VR fan, and just based on your SLR Originals... If you see the incredible strides you guys have done over the last few years... that is more than enough proof to show how dedicated, evolved, and progressive your productions are. If you give this harem series the same love you have given your other content, we are in very good hands.

                  doublevr I would take the blame for not knowning pornstars scene as more people pointed out the scene was not amateur at all. Well, at least these were new to me LOL.

                  Jk lmbo

                  But seriously some of these girls are my favorite Euro stars! Jenny Wild, Lady Gang, Bella Angel, Mina K, Zuzu Sweet... Kudos on the amazing collective cast hope the trend continues! Insanely excited for the future of this series... Literally a dream scenario that we've rarely gotten in VR.. VR was made for this scenario.. Almost gave up hope of ever seeing it consistently other than JAV...

                  I hope we finally get this with American talent in the future once this series takes off 🙏

                    As a personal opinion I'd like to see new faces in VR. 🙂

                    So, my vote goes for the amateurs this time (especially if the filming takes place in Europe...).

                    There is so many studios (BadoinkVR, 18VR, CzechVR., , who have made VR scenes with same european pornstars again and again and again.... and those scenes look usually all the same.

                    Of course this "Harem series"-thing is something new, and that is good thing!
                    Everything new and little bit different that I haven't experienced yet in VR is what I like to see in the future. 🙂

                    I've been waiting, when for example CzechVR makes decent brothel experience scene... (Prague is one of Europe's top destinations, where to travel bachelor party's)...

                    Another thing, which I like to see is somekind of "Soapland"-experience which you have when you travel to Thailand... (picking girl from "aquarium"). Those SLR's Aquarium spa scenes are nice!

                    That is why I liked so much SLR's "Asian delight" scenes... It's like travelling with your headset! 🙂

                    And because I'm from up north, Scandinavia, I liked SLR's "Wicked wedding" as ebony experience... that is something that I can only fantasy in my real life.
                    (All the girls here look like Nancy A, Eva Elfie, Zazie Skymm or Elsa Jean... well, I don't complain...)

                    blaze466 I agree with this; I don't necessarily want complete amateurs who have never done porn before but I LOVE seeing girls who are doing their first VR scene (anyone who's seen my post on the pornstar suggestion thread might have noticed that pattern...).

                    I'm not super into harem stuff but I'm excited to see what this is like. My initial thought is that 2 or 3 experienced pornstars out of the 15-20 feels about right- enough to help the others feel comfortable and maybe do the more kinky stuff, but still with plenty of fresh faces in there.