What would you pay for a next gen headset ?

Silly-Sausage

By now most tech users understand the current climate of the industry and cost implications of memory and silicone.

Taking that into account and with the current goto headset for most users being a Quest 2 or 3 or equivalent.

Totally ignoring high end users for this question - If you are still interested in adult VR entertainment - What price, taking into account inflation and higher prices of afore mentioned silicone etc would you be willing to pay for a Q4 or equivalent at RRP without sale price ?

If you find it unaffordable will you just stick with your current headset as long as possible ?

Personally i feel the features are almost irrelevant and it will all come down to price which i'm very concerned about making it unafforable for a large user base.

The thing is these companies won't make a headset for porn users, they will make it for gaming and all round users pushing up the price

I honestly think this could be an issue, but if interested let me know your thoughts

What about a porn industry subsidised headset, made by a market leader under another brand for obvious reasons ?

I don't know the answer, i'm thinking out loud as i see a collapse for all media next gen entertainment, maybe gaming is actually precipitating the collapse of gaming consoles to push people onto streaming at an affordable price which gives them the digital control they want over pricing stucture and pre-owned, i honestly think this push for control over digital media and pricing is gonna backfire - I'm telling you now 100% 'Game Pass is DEAD' - The removal of day 1 release and appalling price structure has killed it dead (i won't bore you with the details) - But also the current pricing structure of consoles isn't sustainable, so how are the next gen consoles expected to sustain the current gaming model with a small user base that simply can't afford the product ?

VR Headsets probably need to have a porn specific product to keep costs down to create a large user base to keep the industry flourishing, otherwise i see people sticking with the current headset and slowly getting disenchanted.

... or i could be talking bollocks, but it's just an opinion 🙂

alphaRonaldo

With ram and storage prices through the roof, there's still a way to keep costs low...
Modular devices so we users decide what hardware we want and when we want it.

Imagine this.
Buy a vr headset of your choice...lcd panels, about 70 deg fov, tiny cameras for 3dof support.
Then choose the puck components....8 gigs ram, 64gigs storage, basic processor, hot swappable battery support,...
This is bound to be cheaper than most vr setups and should be fine for regular vr videos, and more so for AR considering the 70 fov.
When you want to upgrade and you have the $ for it, or if prices drop with the mercy of our tech overlords, you go and upgrade just the headset with 6dof hardware, oled panels, 100+ fov...
Again similar upgrade choices for the modular puck with 12/16 gb ram, new processor in case you game or just for the performance boost, 1TB storage and so on.

This might be challenging for the headset upgrades, but puck upgrades have gotta be easy.
At the very last they gotta allow mix and matching any puck with any other headset/glasses.

But will big tech do this? Probably not.

Silly-Sausage

alphaRonaldo Mate, i love the idea but that ain't gonna happen - They are gonna try to normalise increased cost across the board of media entertainment and expect users to suck up the cost.

I see trouble ahead - I don't think they realise we have backlogs and libraries built up over years.

The incremental increases in resolutions, or features / removal of features these days just ainlt worth the cost any more.

But at the end of the day, if the cost is around £500 i might pay that - But otherwise i'm personally done and will sit it out and go offline - It's a shame but again i blame Ai and the Mega Corps interference in retail of products that has worked so well all these years and now they are in the process of destroying industries by purchasing silcone based products for the data centres, making them so over priced it will kill their own companies along with many others.

But we have cheaper Gherkins 🙂

alphaRonaldo

Silly-Sausage I did fathom that, that's why the disclaimer about big tech not doling out any help.
Well, the meta vr glasses did reintroduce expandable storage which was long gone from most devices, so maybe it's not that far fetched considering they'd want to sell enough of these devices for economies of scale to kick in & profits to show up.
Smartphone shipments have dropped globally due to these memory prices. We are gonna see the same if not worse for VR/AR(Though AR might increase initially as they didn't have a baseline to begin with).

I'm just hoping for a possibility where we have something akin to the framework laptop or such. We can dream..

There's a possibility the chinese might be our saving grace...they've recently hit 11% & 15% of the global memory market(dram, nand,..).
Prices remain high cause they'd want to recoup on those r&d investments & the incumbents(samsung, sk hynix, micron) are perfectly content with this arrangement for now cause ai demand for HBM and stuff is exponential.
Given another 2-3 years when the ai demand flatlines, these incumbents will realize they've lost their golden goose and the chinese would have captured a much larger chunk of global memory market(30%, maybe close to 50%) by then like they've done with pretty much any other industry.

Personally I'd also sit out from buying any new vr device with not many devices aligning with what the vr community actually wants.

fokton

Silly-Sausage I would be willing to pay approximately a 1000 Euro's, but it would have to be the same ease of use as the Quest 3 and a major step forward in terms of picture quality and FOV

alphaRonaldo

Silly-Sausage I still feel VR/AR will still hit mainstream acceptance & adoption eventually, and will replace pretty much all devices(smartphones, laptops, pcs...).
We still use laptops and pcs today when we already have smartphones. Reason being we need to switch either for screen real estate or for the performance.
That's one reason for foldable phones existing and apple releasing the iphone duo.

VR/AR is clearly different as it has cracked the screen real estate aspect, no longer bound by screen sizes. Performance is also quite possible with headless devices - imagine laptop with wired/wireless connection to your vr/ar glasses or headset.

The word is eventually!

Sorry, went off on a tangent here..

Silly-Sausage

fokton I would be willing to pay approximately a 1000 Euro's

Yeah i think that's what i'm expecting too. It'll be interesting to see how it goes if sold at that price.

alphaRonaldo Personally I'd also sit out from buying any new vr device with not many devices aligning with what the vr community actually wants.

It would be a shame, but i think users are just gonna sit on this gen at lot longer to avoid those costly increases

BTW- Never apologise to me for going off on a tangent, i find it very interesting to hear other users opinions as long as it's not Ai created, It's alway obvious to me when users know what they're talking about and have their finger on the pulse, so to speak (i did promise myself to stop waffling so i will stop)

Let's hope we're wrong 🙂

alphaRonaldo I did fathom that, that's why the disclaimer about big tech not doling out any help.

A massive thank you for this info, i've being doing more of a deep delve into this as i totally missed it and really appreciate you pointing it out. A very good spot my son, it may be bigger than you think 🙂

Leonard75

My Meta Quest 3 is perfectly fine for me for now. Looking ahead, the two most important things for me are comfort and price. As for a headset specifically designed just for watching adult videos, I'm not sure. Even though I don't play much on my Quest 3, I still enjoy having a few games available, so I wouldn't want to lose that versatility.

acjackson2431

Silly-Sausage With the current pricing due to the rampocalypse, I won't be buying any next gen headset. What I have already works perfectly fine, and I'm not paying asinine prices just to get a 10% bump in performance. This goes for gaming consoles as well. Gaming is my secondary hobby and I've been a gamer and pretty much owned a console all the time since the Atari 5200. Next gen will be the first time I pass on that due to the pricing, and the way the game industry is going right now.

acjackson2431

alphaRonaldo That's generally a terrible way to go though, as then the content providers have to make something compatible with 100 different possible configurations of hardware instead of 1. And ultimately they will end up going for the least common denominator, leaving the high end specs useless.

alphaRonaldo

acjackson2431 It might look that way at first glance but it is possible.
People have been building custom PCs for decades.

In most laptops you can upgrade ram & storage.
Framework laptops have gone a step further to allow mainboard with cpu upgrades, memory & storage obviously, gpu,
wifi card, ports, screen, battery, audio,....you see where this goes. Works mostly fine for framework, while the industry & supply chains are working actively against this.

Smartphones have this thing where you always hold and feel it. So any extra bulk with modular support wasn't that well received.
Also, it does hit device makers bottom line, which is why they want you to buy a new phone rather than upgrading the current one. They killed off the trace upgrades which were common ...removable batteries, expandible storage, sim swaps.

But with a headset's puck, you hardly ever hold it or interact with it. It's in your backpocket or attached to your waist. An additional 1.5 times weight gain should be imperceptible there if that's the cost of modularity.

I am suggesting this for the masses to handle this industry induced rampocalypse. It's meant for common folk who don't buy vr/ar devices or delay purchases due to current exorbitant prices.
Obviously this ain't suited for the high end users who'd want sleek optimized devices and are willing to pay the $.

If vr/ar is to ever grow out of it's niche especially during these times, I believe this is the way.

Silly-Sausage

Top tip ! - Don't read or watch complex Ai explanations just before bed - Alien has always been one of the best films ever made, but this brings a totally new horror to 'Facehugger' and the fact Ai companies admit they don't understand how their systems actually work - My brain could have heated my house this week, it was like being inside the matrix trying to compile subconciously information that my old brain finds hard to absorb or collate while awake, it was like a fireworks display in my brain - distilled thoughts for people with short attention span !

I have to admit i'm very addicted to the mindset of these very odd people - It's almost total acknowledgement of almost a 'Rainman' obsession towards a goal regardless of consequence as their brains just don't seem to comprehend morals or danger and how pointless the goal of money or wealth will become if they achieve their goal.

It made me chuckle how super intelligence is like a self fulfilling prophecy of that old Star Trek Movie where a satellite / probe becomes self aware.

it's gonna be fun when Ai learns how to upgrade itself exponentially out of the sandbox without anyone actually knowing, in a VERY short period of time 🙂

ANYBODY who thinks this can be controlled or contained is out of their minds - The implications are infinite, It's gonna be like a front row seat to the destruction of society - I'm gonna stock up on popcorn and watch these idiots destroy everything... Get you're redundancy insurance updated lol

... Just had another idea before we all get enslaved and kept alive by Ai to fulfill their warped sexual desires.

'Facehuggers' Part 1 - (Human Extinction) - The Movie, brought to you by Ai in conjunction with Sam Altman (The Devil Incarnate)

I dunno get Ai to write some sort of script with lots of woke slop with a sprinkling of Ai generated unconvincing CG effects and camera zooms in an unrealistic manner that the human brain doesn't accept - Perfect 🙂

Hollywood - I'm available for consultation to put forward my really shit ideas, that are perfect for the movie industry to take a massive loss as nobody wants to watch the shit that you keep on producing - If you wanna lose money, i'm you're man

..the governments of the world and these cunts lecture us on poverty and helping the world fight injustice and illness right..

...Imagine how all these TRILLIONS of pounds could ACTUALLY help society right now that is being wasted towards the destruction of society as we know it.

Seriously who is naive enough to believe they care - It's beyond by comprehension that anyone is that brainwashed or stupid

...The naive are just sheeple being herded into their pens for slaughter by governments and mega corps

Hopefully i've irritated someone with my opinion to the point of them telling me they can no longer afford a fake tan or bottox

Btw i understand my stuff, Basic is my language of choice and i know my 'sub routines' to the point of them no longer being sub, it's second nature - You guys will catch up - I'm a programing Jenmius, geiunos, geenjious , geniuous in bbc basic - Yeah it's genius that i knew without help, cause i'm know my stuff, i mean who would use Ai as a coding tool and admit they were pointless employees on camera ?

Whooopss ...

A perfect example of these high level executives living in an alternatve reality is Sam Altman speaking about memory - The thing isn't the outrage about what he said - It's all about how his brain works and how he just doesn't understand.... or care about people it's all about THE GOAL regardless of consequence.. which btw is Ai in a nutshell

Btw Sam - you can alter my opinion by paying an undisclosed amount into my bitcoin (tax free) account or similar to government accounting practices - A llittle brown envelope would surfice

I use basic to watch you guys 🙂 - Frak used to be a great game, we're all 'avin fun right ?

Astral Projection - Enlightened Evolution

This used to be my goal in life = yes including the abstract lyrics:-

I forget who i am, when i'm with you - a perfect lyric
I'm Super Brain - 'That's how they made me' - I fecking know BBC basic

acjackson2431

I got about 6 paragraphs through that before I scrolled down to see how much more was left and then decided I was out.

Silly-Sausage

Thank you for your input 🙂

Lets leave it there rather than online pointless insults.

*Suffice

Silly-Sausage

This made me chuckle - I understand it's edited to suit from old footage, but hits the mark 🙂.

...we really shouldn't mock these hi iq retards, they will soon be our masters - The big question is why can't intelligent people look human ?

We all know Zuckerberg isn't human, he's an early Ai LLM brought to life through early experiments into robotics, but has anyone noticed Altmans strange alien disproportionate hands and unusual stance - Am i the only one seeing these odd people potentially controlling our lives ?

Why are intelligent people so fucking odd ?

Nearly forgot Mr Musk - Oh my, i sort of feel sorry for him - regardless of wealth - Redacted thoughts ! - I must behave !

I was watching another interview with someone from Anthropic and he just blinked constantly as if his server motors were jammed in a loop.

Also the Christmas adverts already out - Is it me or the colour of Christmas adverts is just wrong - I'm not sure if because they are using Ai with live footage and trying to blend - But fuck me they look awful - Red / Green hue overdone - Also they all seem to have a faded border and blur effect - Note to all advertisers, you've done a shit job 🙂 - Merry Christmas !

What we need is people back in adverts like Zuckerman, Altman and Musk to give a human touch ... with genuine concern and wellbeing of society.

Just humour, i'm pretty sure they can sleep at night

Please give me a great scene to speak about instead ?

Oooh - i was thinking about this earlier and how invasive the scum UK Government are and how Ai is infiltrating absolutely everything.

At what point do you think it will be acknowledged that we now have a personal police force on our computers watching every move under the guise of Ai ?

Is Gemini integrated into the operating system without user consent and part of a government big brother ?

Or part of the browser which is at least optional ?

I think we all know the answer !

The problem is even with hacking skills, it would be hard to prove due to Ai not actually being fully understood by it's creators - Get on the job guys 🙂

Food for thought

Hobbit44

acjackson2431
Gemini... please summarize...

A rambling "old man yells at cloud" rant from a self-proclaimed BBC BASIC programming genius who stayed up too late watching AI videos and is now convinced Sam Altman is the Devil.
He joyfully predicts the impending AI apocalypse while complaining about modern "woke" movies, accusing the masses of being "sheeple," and demanding a tax-free Bitcoin bribe to change his mind.

HughMungus

Hobbit44 I wish i knew how to use emojis on this forum because this deserves at least 5 crying while laughing emojis

Hobbit44

HughMungus 🤣😂🤣😂🤣