a month or so ago i posted a critique of seated cowgirl positions and this one will also address laying cowgirl positions and update my thoughts. So for the longest time i always enjoyed seated cowgirl the most more than laying cowgirl and i wasnt aware what was causing me to always watch this section but now i know. so i dont spend that much time watching doggy or mish coz as a toy user i find that laying down tends to work best with the videos. now one thing thats odd is that laying cowgirl despite laying with my back behind a few blankets always was a lot less fun than the seated cowgirl postions and i would watch it vastly less.
Initially is misestimated this as caused by the fact that the girls hips are lower compared to the camera which acts as our headheight. I thought this because some of the videos with laying cowgirl on pooltables were the bed isnt weighed down at all felt even less fun than normal laying cowgirls with the camera in a worse postion so i thought that might have been the case and made a post complaining.
since then slr, vr spy, vr hush and fuckpass vr have done some videos with laying cowgirl where the cameras a little high compared to the hips are sunk a bit lower and its been terrible. i really didnt enjoy these and found them very convincing to watch. its like shes having sex below you, nothings in the right spot, all the depth cues are off. so i was like intersting.
then it hit me when vr hush released coastline affair video of laying cowgirl with the camera ever so sligthly closer. and i loved this laying cowgirl and realised the problem with all laying cowgirls is the girls hips are to far away so it feels like shes further back than she needs to be. this both makes the girl look a bit to small and all the features of her body are smaller than they need to be comapred to when shes up close in somes of the great seated cowgirl postions like cabin trip but also the depth cues of how far away she is places her in the wrong spot to think shes actually aligned as if having sex with you so it feels a lot less convincing.
so that video had really good alignment with laying cowgirl camera and its night and day differnece i can watch it dozens of times where as videos with a girl further away i dont even want to watch once since theres a good libarby of videos why would i want to feel like a voyeer where shes not postiioned anywhere close to convinginly it just makes the expeirence way way worse even in pov like prime vr or prime video vr has a beautiful girl who does a lot of laying cowgirl but in all of them the cameras a bit to far back so your seeing this guys body all in the wrong postion and then by the time the camera gets to the girl shes in the wrong postion to. the other problems are in vrpornnow he has the girl not only way to far away to feel convingly aligned with your real life penis but also to low.
same with psporn has a lot of videos in the car where the girls often to far away and a little to low so you get the worst of both worlds with the distance and depth cues throwing you off so that its not at all convincing that shes really all up on you.
so i discovered that what really seems to matter is the hip height realitive to the camera your head and also the close proximity to the camera where her torso is is extremely important. let me give you some examples that do this really well.
there almost exclusively from slr or vrspy but less and less recently as they screwed up seated cowgirl postions and laying cowgirls never been perfect but surprsingly of all company virtual real porn has relased a liz ocean video of good postioning and unexpectedly vr hush and fuckpass has to it right just once or twice. but yes the golden area is mostly slr and vr spy heres some great examples. the etnire list is reflecting seated cowgirl which gets the exact right notion of how close to get her torso and proximally close to how high to make her hips for it to feel realistic for a guy laying down with his back up behind blankets but i found the one time i seen amazing laying cowgirl we can learn from the seated ones so lets first go through the seated
cabin trip is perfect
the threesom with maya wolfe and liz is great
eurotrip after party is good
raw taboo in heat is perfect
llyal jennings onesey video is perfect
the near perfect but not quite
eurotrip stepsisters gets the camera exactly right for hte depth cues of her torso right where it needs to be esepically on girl 2 and 3 in seated cowgirl but the hips are a little low relative to the camera.
bicurious is also nearly perfect its pretty much perfect but maybe a lil low or far away
heres the not quite perfect but close
boss of you does amazingly good for reverse seated cowgirl and nealry there for front facing cowgirl
needs work but intersting in waht gets wrong
charlottes video with vr spy in that blue dress i found shes to far away from the camera so she needs to be brought a little in in seated and reverse cowgirl
good torso postion but to low hips compared to camera:
teach me step daddy delle cate Isnt to bad in terms of how far her torso is form her body but hips are to low. and is awful for height wise
gia oh my videos with slr and vrspy are just awful like they are so low that theres no way i can feel like its really happening its like shes having sex half a meter below my bed really quite bizare i found these near unwatchable even though i can watch other videos like taboo in heat dozens of times. like seriously guys when the hips are to low or not close enough its unconving enough that i really have a hard time enjoying the product and jerk off far less often.
vrpornnow of course the girls are always to far away and low i cant enjoy this at all.
they need to be brought closer in coz the depth cues are importnat for where she feels relative to you so that shes really up on your lap like even if i lie down very flat i cant get my dick far away and then its also to low.
ps porn is an intersting case with the car coz some of the older cars almost felt like it was doing slrs seated cowgirl postioining back in taboo in heat days in terms of where she was in the right height and also torso a bit closer in coz they were cramped but since hes brought newer cars the girls are lower down waist which doesnt work coz shes below you and to far away but therse a few videos he did with puala shy and one on one vidoes now and then with sarah kay that really got it right and irnoaically one recently with seated cowgirl with puala shy but its imperfect in that i think ah slrs older vidoes is still probably a better model for how to postion seated cowgirl but it worked his hip and camera heigh placement was sufficent there to feel like the girl was in the right spot.
some other slr ones are awfully positioned like a valientines day threesome one the girls are so far away and low idk why you do that. coz honestly even in passthrough videos i find that its weird when the girls torso is to far away and low and i get it that dick postion is importnat for passthrough but i find hte most enjoyable ones had a close enough proximity to the camera in seated cowgirl that she felt up on you. and like u could grab her waiste right htere infront of you and when she feels slightly far away or at two weird of an angle its like her legs are small relative to rest or it all just feels off. anyway um idk its harder to cirtique passthrough coz i watch it but a lil less often but seated and laying in normal i got hang of.
i want to say though theres a danger iwth camera being to to high. so cabin trip and also recently Between Pages, No Masks and the right tool do quite well but the challange is when its to close like the channel upclose vr sometimes or ah also when miss lexa did it with to much camera zoom competlely ucnonvcinging coz theres not enough chest to feel like ur in the scene and the actions to close its in front of ur dick so its possible to go to far the other way.
so i think cabin trip and taboo in heat are clsoe to perfect (always copy the old slr and vr spy videos like the liz and maya wolfe threesome or these ones as the ultimate seated cowgirl default) but weirdly the between pages, no masks had less angle in the stuntcocks chest but also had her placed in a way that it felt really conving. also the the right tool did well too and it was perfect enough i dont want to cirtique it but the bigger danger would be being further away rather than closerbut i probalby wouldnt change anythign and repcliate it exactly but its almost exactly right. she could be marginally closer or the exact same postiosn but closer could get to close and start being a problem so i think as is that was ideal. and itnersting is it had slightly dif angle than slr or vr spy often does it.if people were going for seated cowgirl id recommend cabin trip or taboo in heat but hte right tool and Between Pages, No Masks
but interstingly now that i zeroed in on its the proximity of hte torso and height of the hips that made the seated cowgirls always way more fun ive seen it done a few times in laying cowgirl to at exactly the right torso closeness and its ever so slightly closer so coastline affair video gets it exactly right and i was like holy shit mind vblown i love this video and was wtching laying cowgirl over and over way way more than normally would because all of a sudden she was in the right level of depth and far awayness by bringing her slightly closer. now again u dont want to go to to close but i found that video stunning like amazing that was the best laying cowgirl ive ever seen i got it exactly right and i didnt enjoy it any less than my fav of seated cowgirl which is why it hit me that what really mattters is perfect proximtiy to caemra of the hips. and thena lso of course the camerea not being to high or low relative ot hips coz thats where ur head is.
now id like to reflect in terms of blankets behind me well laying down that doesnt mean that i want the hips of the male actor to low because the reason i put the blankets behind me is often the camera is slightly higher than my real life head or something i dont know how to describe it but if i lay flat its almost like at that stage her hips are to low compared to mine relative to my head but with the balnkets behind me it hits taht perfect zone of the right tool or between pages no masks or cabin trip or taboo in heat in a way i cant do laying completley flat which means the hips of the girl is already low enough in standard laying cowgirl the whole issue is most of hte time its ever so slightly far away but not much. all it takes is moving her forward a little bit realtive to the camrea which sounds like nothing but when your laying down the distance between a bit further back is acutally the girl being quite a lot smaller and a lot of depth cues just making her look to far its like it shrinks it a lot. also the other advatnage is the pixels u take up slightly more pixels if shes closer so the image quality is stronger. idk its really imrportant she feels in the right postion which is the right height camera height compred to hips and the right closeness and farness.
so coastline affair layign cowgirl was best one ive seen. most wankzvr vvideos have laying cowgirl to far away. prime vr has it wayyy to far away as does vrporn now. slr has it slightly to far away but not by much. and hte coastline affair video did it perfect. also old style taboo in heat era seated cowgirl gives u a good cue for roughly the height of camera placement and hips proximity to feel like shes really all up on you.
like i get you could argue it might just be my taste of how i like to seat but i find that seated geniuely in a proper seat for cowgirl if i really do it as a user makes the toy worse doggy style toys worse and then in terms of when i am in the semi lying postion theres no way i can make my dick far away enough for the aying cowgirl or my hips low enough for some of hte reidoclously low seated cowgirl like the gia oh my ones so the only wya ive been able to line up with the dick and hips and torso properly is the seated cowgirl videos i wathed again and again and the slightly closer laying cowgirl one
But yes if i had to say which ones to follow follow oldstyle slr for seated cowgirl postion like taboo in heat euro trip after party and cabin trip and maya wolfe/liz vid but interstingly the between pages no masks and the right tool worked as well and for all laying cowgirls slightly closer to camera and not to low or to high and the ideal version of that is coastline affair with alexa chains just perfect
also i want to reitterate that although im saying bring laying cowgirl slightly closer u dont want to get to close which is why coastline affair with alexa chains is the great example because upclose vr and miss lexa have taken it closer in or more zoomed and thats been a problem to so saying most seated cowgirls sligthly to low and often to far away and almost all laying cowgirls to far away doesnt mean to close isnt also an issue which is why i use many examples of close to perfect camera postionings so my advice isnt to to much closer as that would break things but coastline affair is perfect for laying and then all my examples of good seated are ways of doing seated