How would you structure the perfect VR scene?

petermc

I honestly think you’re already doing pretty well. I think picture quality needs to improve, as others have said, but everything else is pretty good. I think famous pornstars do probably get more eyes and likes on the scenes but I think Alexa Creed, who seems to be in the vast majority of your scenes, is an exceptional VR performer. She is great at the intimacy/eye contact people mention and is also a great talker, she really immerses you in the scene and seems to be gaining a bit of a following herself.

I like that you include a bit of throat fucking and slapping in some of the scenes although I feel like the slaps could be a little harder. At the moment they’re more like little flicks of the wrist which probably don’t please either the rough sex fans or the fans who don’t like any roughness. Depends on the girls of course and whether they enjoy it. Not looking for anything too crazy, just proper slaps if you’re going to include it.

Overall though, I’m quite enjoying your scenes. I’d love to see some anal sex but I get that VR studios seem to largely stay away from that for some reason.

epicvr

petermc Glad to hear you’re enjoying the scenes overall.

I agree about the image quality. That’s something I’m actively working on improving, especially as VR keeps moving more toward higher resolution expectations. It’s one of the main priorities for future shoots.

And yeah, Alexa is honestly great in VR. The eye contact, talking, and natural interaction make a huge difference for immersion, so I’m happy people are noticing that too.

About the roughness, that’s fair feedback as well. I try to keep a balance depending on the performer’s comfort and chemistry in the scene, but I understand what you mean about the slaps sometimes feeling a bit too light to fully land either way.

As for anal, I get asked about that pretty often actually. It’s definitely something I’m open to exploring in the future if the right scene and performer fit it naturally.

Really appreciate you taking the time to write all this.

snakedoc

epicvr Do you prefer more positions with shorter duration, or fewer positions but longer?
What instantly breaks immersion for you?
What makes you come back and rewatch a scene?
Do you prefer famous actresses, or does the story and the way an actress performs matter more to you?
And if you could design the perfect VR scene from start to finish, what would the structure look like? Which positions would you start with, continue with, and end with? And how long should the full movie be?

Hard one to answer. Some videos feel like they're trying too hard to please the crowd, so they cram a few seconds of everything in, which is nice in a way, but when you only get a few seconds of what you like, it can feel like a bummer. I personally prefer positions that increase intimacy. So instead of a kneeling handjob, I prefer when the girl is in your face, with a reverse grip, looking into your eyes and talking dirty. Titjobs are great when she's looking up at you, and can be added into BJ scenes.

Cowgirl is a must, but lean forward, not backward.

I LOVE the view of asses, but doggy in VR doesn't do it for me as much as RCG. The exception would be if she looks back at you. but standard doggy with her face down isn't as great (IMHO)

Close up missionary is great, but missionary where you're standing far away is meh, unless you're prepping for a creampie.

I don't really enjoy the cunnilingus breaks, cause the script stops, you're not ACTUALLY eating pussy, and her moans are 100% fake, cause no one is touching her. If you want to add something similar in, do 69, so you get a face full of pussy, but you also have her blowing you too.

Immersion is broken if the camera is impossible to line up with myself. I use PT, and while I don't change positions (I view entirely from a sitting position) - I still try and line things up. But if the scale is wrong, or the camera placement is awful (giant woman, or camera on stomach, so it looks like the cock is coming out of my chin) then I'll just pass.
I have several videos that I rewatch, and it all comes down to how good the script is (both funscript, and the writing). It's gotta be memorable in writing style, so the scenario is super hot, or filmed in a way that the funscript is excellent, or has an excellent hand written script. The best scenes combine both of these, so it's hot both physically and psychologically. We're watching VR porn after all.
I like famous actresses because I am familiar with them, but they're not necessary. Sometimes breakout stars, or amateurs can be great. It's all about how hot the performer is to catch your eye - but this will be VERY subjective. The HUGE part is how engaged she is. Even the best of the best performers have shitty scenes where they just seem like they don't want to be there. No one watches VR porn to get the "obligation sex" feel. They want a partner who is unrealistically into them, and enthusiastic, in situations that are far fetched. Jupiter Ren, Anya Olsen, Little Puck - they commit to their roles and bring energy to the storyline.
My perfect VR scene would be very story heavy. My personal kinks would be cheating on my girlfriend /wife with her friend or a coworker. She would seduce me while my girl was away, very aggressively and to my reluctance, pushing her limits. It would start with the eye to eye handjob, with her saying "she'll never find out" or "you want this anyway". She'd weasel her way into a titjob, saying it's not really cheating since there's no penetration, etc. Naturally progressing to a blowjob.
Eventually she would want to fuck, and eventually convinces me that we can do it, but with a condom. She agrees and hops on RCG to get a nice view, and then swapping to cowgirl where she continues to talk, reminding you that you're cheating, and just general filthy talk.

Eventually, she gets frustrated and decides she's going to take the condom off, to much protest, but she convinces you anyway, so long as you pull out, or cum on her face.

Get some nice 69 in there, and end in closeup missionary.

At the very end, it pulls back to far mish, only so just before you cum, she leg locks you for a creampie.

For something like that to be pulled off, you need a great actress.

epicvr

snakedoc This is actually really valuable feedback.
The point about intimacy and eye contact is something I completely agree with.
Your “perfect scene” breakdown was also interesting because it shows how much psychology matters in VR.
Really appreciate you taking the time to write all this. It’s probably some of the most detailed and useful feedback I’ve read.

Reeses

epicvr hey bud! My two cents.
Few positions but longer duration are key IMO, the nature of the beast is we have to adjust the setting in our headset, ie pitch, roll, yaw, contrast/brightness, zoom etc. Even the most beautifully shot scenes require this to some degree, because our actual position IRL doesn't match the male performer and camera angle perfectly. This being said, going from BJ to REV CG back to BJ requires adjustments, so I prefer longer action segments, adjust, relax and enjoy 5-10min of BJ.

I would say fame of the actress doesn't matter much to me, though the famous gals ARE famous for a reason 😉 Though, I don't like watching a VR of some gal that I could go meet at the local Walmart or gas station, pick up, and take home/date. My opinion if 5 /10 is avg (fine to date if shes cool), 10/10 being unattainable beautiful (shalina devine is close to 10 for me.), then I would say VR porn should be reserved for 6's and above.

I would also say that lighting is very important in VR, too dark or lit from one side throws off the shoot, VR headsets don't do shadows well, though the galaxy XR gets close.

I would say for BJ particularly, she isn't doing it at home for her man, and we shouldn't be seeing the top of her head 90% of the BJ, look up, eye contact with the camera in seated BJ, laying BJ between the dudes legs, face towards the camera.

What instantly BREAKS immersion? The male actors HANDS. Hands off the ladies for 90%. Idk why, its like primal, I know those aren't my hands... a quick spank, a quick spread, sure... but grabbing her ass for 70% of doggy... c'mon...
Dude who starred in a lot of POVR scenes was BAD about this, think its the same guy from swallowbayvr....

I would also venture to say that lop sided casting has reduced a lot of otherwise good scenes for me. So a 9 cast with a 4. Or goth gal cast with a valley girl. Or a prime age cast with a milf. I would say thay people like what they like, and mixing up the casting for ffm too much breaks that. The exception may be ALT 20 year old with milf ALT, so similar. Or two star bombshells, say Carolina Guerrero with Shalina Devine. So SIMILAR, but different.

Like I love Charlotte Sartre, she's fit and trim, nice tasteful boobs, pretty face. Cast her with a chubby Asian gal and I'll be distracted by the gal that I do NOT find attractive. Cast Charlotte with valerica steele, and they're different enough but still the same basic genre.

I would say some story is OK, but just set the premise, there is an Uma Jolie WANKZ scene, Booner Eats, and she keeps stopping her performance to ask if Uber eats is still showing up 🤦‍♂️....

Uma Jolie's other scene, your mistress at work, she sets the scene, talking about your wife never blah blah blah, but she is performing the whole time, teasing and stripping, playing with herself etc. Once the BJ and porn in earnest starts, its just hot sex.

My overall take, porn in general, and VR especially, is about showing the common man the virtual side of what is unattainable for the common man. Ie 6s and 7s above, actions that are not commonly done, anal, atm, creampie, gals doing a ton of the work, gals finishing off the guy, etc.

If we wanted to see a gal do not much work, and guy beat his meat until he pops, we could just get on tinder and LIVE it.

Reeses

epicvr all that being said, there are "average gals" that are just HIGH PERFOEMERS.
Ie how Abella Anderson danced when she rode. Or how Sasha Foxxx could bring a man to the edge and keep him there for an hour. Or how nofacegirl rolls her hips and rides rev CG until dude creampies her, then she KEEPS RIDING.

epicvr

Reeses @Reeses Honestly, this was one of the most insightful replies in the whole thread.

The point about longer positions because viewers constantly need to adjust pitch, roll, zoom, and alignment inside the headset is something I don’t think most creators fully realize until someone explains it exactly like this. It makes a lot of sense why too many fast transitions can become tiring instead of immersive.

The feedback about male hands is also really interesting. I also completely agree about lighting in VR. Your points about performers were valuable too.

And the comparison between “setting the premise” versus constantly interrupting the scene with dialogue was another really good observation.

I still have a few scenes already filmed and ready to release, so I can’t instantly apply all the feedback from this thread, but for the next fresh productions I’m definitely going to revisit a lot of these points while planning and shooting.

Really appreciate you taking the time to write such a detailed breakdown.

petermc

I agree with some of that but I would counter that spending too long in one position gets boring. I’m not sure you need to make a ton of adjustments in the headset for a position change, I just adjust the tilt and I’m good to go. I’m certainly not looking for scenes where the guy lays there for the whole scene and we just get variations of cowgirl, again that’s boring as hell, I want to see the girls get fucked, not do all the work themselves.

I’m also not into “no hands” thing. I want to see the girls get manhandled, I want the female performers to have fun, not have this weird encounter with no touching which can’t be fun for anyone. I do agree that I don’t want the guys hands covering the girls ass for the whole scene but no hands isn’t the answer either.

I also like lots of dirty talk in the scene so I’m not looking for no dialogue. It’s super boring if the girl doesn’t say anything during sex. Yes, don’t keep making contrived silly story based innuendos but a sexy story through line can be ok if done right and I definitely want dirty talk and, if it’s a taboo storyline, I want taboo dirty talk.

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