Getting back to h265 Originals mastering

doublevr

Currently the back log is being re-packed into HLS for better streaming on Quest and AVP with some 15k already processed in around a month.

If things go well we might be deprecating av1 at some pont

VSaucy123

doublevr you shouldn't, av1 is better in terms of quality imo. I'm just telling you what my eyes see

SchnuppiLilac

doublevr Considering that until now HEVC + AV1 streaming in DeoVR worked perfectly fine for me on Quest (stable and no notable buffering when jumping forward 10 sec), would I notice any difference when choosing HEVC HLS?

And why AV1 didn't work out? Eating up too many computing resources?

doublevr

SchnuppiLilac hevc hls is prefect streaming.

Av1 is no better filesize or streaming, still better on quests for tech performance

Silly-Sausage

SchnuppiLilac And why AV1 didn't work out? Eating up too many computing resources?

I'd take a guess that AV1 has inconsistent compatibiltiy issues with Ai Passthrough mask creation - but that's just a wild educated guess making it not worth the hassle.. and other potential ongoing issues - It's a good move IMO, stick with tech that works, yes always try to move forward but ffs test it before going live, this is why SLR are in such a mess atm, such a shame as the potential is there due to incredible people, but SLR need to stop changing tech every month

I keep on repeating myself stick with tech that works, a year ago (probably less was perfect) now i have no idea if the new camera is gonna ruin the scene and be out of focus or too far away or have an mask that ruins the FOV or have washed out colours with bad colour saturation, poor white balance losing detail, lack of contrast which affects depth perception and use of colour that pops to enhance the scene, bright, girly colours of underwear and makeup, rather than grey drab scenes of late from all studios ?

I'm not just having a go at you guys, i'm trying to give constructive critcism that i think works in VR to enhance the overall scene, trust me i've watched more than most on here.

Please get back to being. consistent and awesome quality that SLR used to be.

dolphin7559

SLR removing downloads?

Kolaches

If this means we're gonna fix the washed out colors and over-balanced whites in scenes then I'm very happy. Scenes from years ago look way better than scenes of today for me on my q3

harigeharry

Silly-Sausage I respect your opinion but completely disagree. SLR is at the top of the game BECAUSE they experiment and continually try to improve things. The rest who 'stick with what works' haven't improved at all. Name me 1 other site out there which made big improvements the last 1-3 years? They alll 'stuck with what worked' and they are all not even getting close to SLR quality. VRBangers is pretty good, not close, but pretty good. All others are really miles behind when it comes to video fidelity. Most sites havent even upgraded to 8k, let alone go over 120 Mbps. Their quality just is miles behind and at this point almost start to look like amateurs, like RealjamVR, MilfVR and NaughtyAmericaVR for example. Their quality is just a joke. Maybe nice if you have a Q3 but on anyhing better, it's just a bummer.

Sure, I get it, it's frustrating when they get it right and then change something and it just doesnt look as good as it was. But it's still WAY better than what you get elsewhere. Honestly SLR originals (and VRspy) is all I feel is even worth watching on a high-end headset.

doublevr

dolphin7559 nowhere on the list

alphaRonaldo

harigeharry Agreed that SLR does experiment a lot and a lot of good does come out of it. Not denying that.

What we wish for is consistency and gradual test releases which don't brick their current workflow.
Take image quality for example. SLRO has nailed it, yet it's never consistent. A few scenes drop with good focus for closeups, we all are happy. And then abruptly something throws this out of whack and we have a whole load of scenes which have serious focus issues. (I'm not even talking of the BMURSA closeup focus issues.)
Same with the color correction. Few scenes have decent colors and then it's a whole load of scenes with biege/orange/brown/pale tinted colors. VRSpy does do a good job with colors, but they too are highly affected when slro messes color correction like here.
And again with the camera distance. It starts off good and then we have multiple releases with a giraffe-esque distance for close-up mish or lean in cowgirl.
One good read through the comment section shows that these issues are quite frequent.

Aren't there multiple ways to solve this. Have defined rules for camera distances, color correction, and more. When introducing new features or changes, do it on a small section of a scene and take feedback. Maybe keep it on SLR labs. Once approvals cross a threshold, gradually introduce it to maybe 1 scene per week. Not for all scenes at once. Look for feedback and go on from there. Atleast when something does go wrong, the blast radius is contained.
I know this can be hard to manage, but that's how new features are supposed to be introduced.

I have to disagree though regarding other studios. Japanese studios are highly consistent with minimal of these issues.
LethalhardcoreVR has resolved their closeup focus issues and again are consistent with it.
We have BraindanceVR working on something almost none in the industry is trying.
StripzVR is consistently releasing BMURSA scenes on its Babelicious website and their regular site too while keeping in mind it's limitations.
VRSun has been consistent with color correction and image quality all this time.
And there's more such studios.

Again, it's all about consitency and staggered release of new/test features.
Lets not test on production systems. Is that too big an ask?

Silly-Sausage

harigeharry I respect your opinion but completely disagree. SLR is at the top of the game BECAUSE they experiment and continually try to improve things.

Hey that's fine, this is exactly the purpose of the forum, to get users chatting about the product and we just happen to have a different opinion on this subject, nothing wrong with that - Even i'm wrong sometimes.

At the end of the day SLR can listen to the feedback and make their own judgement and as it's starting to get sunny again i can actually get out riding again as i appear to be going stir crazy due to the constant rain here, and i will be less vocal on here you will be pleased to hear.

Time to work off all the Xmas Stollen Cake...

Cheers